I'm sure it's not correct, but the timings for the 2150 
Middlesbrough-Manchester Airport include a time for Morley, somewhere 
that TPX never calls at.

Travel Infosystems http://www.travelinfosystems.com/ shows these timings 
for 3/4 August only:

Middlesbrough 	  	21:50
Thornaby	 	21:55
Darlington 	 	22:16
Northallerton 	 	22:29
York 			23:18
Leeds 			23:44
Morley 		 	23:50
Dewsbury 	 	23:56
Huddersfield 		0:05
Manchester Piccadilly 	1:03
Manchester Airport 	1:18 	

The LDB is now showing the Morley stop as cancelled and the timings are 
back to the usual timings for the 2150, so what could the Morley entry 
be?  Could it be a WTT passing time that found its way into the public 
timetable?

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 23:10:40 +0100, Mark Morton
 wrote:


>I'm sure it's not correct, but the timings for the 2150 
>Middlesbrough-Manchester Airport include a time for Morley, somewhere 
>that TPX never calls at.
>
>Travel Infosystems http://www.travelinfosystems.com/ shows these timings 
>for 3/4 August only:
>
>Middlesbrough 	  	21:50
>Thornaby	 	21:55
>Darlington 	 	22:16
>Northallerton 	 	22:29
>York 			23:18
>Leeds 			23:44
>Morley 		 	23:50
>Dewsbury 	 	23:56
>Huddersfield 		0:05
>Manchester Piccadilly 	1:03
>Manchester Airport 	1:18 	
>
>The LDB is now showing the Morley stop as cancelled and the timings are 
>back to the usual timings for the 2150, so what could the Morley entry 
>be?  Could it be a WTT passing time that found its way into the public 
>timetable?


At a guess it's a passing time, as calling at Morley Low would extend
the 12 minute Leeds -Dewsbury start-to-stop time of 12 minutes, which
this doesn't.

If it were a booked stop to compensate, say, for the non-running of
the last stopper (half an hour earlier), I would expect to see stops
at Cottingley and (especially) Batley as well, which would extend the
journey time by a good biit more.




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Mike

mikedotroebuckatgmxdotnet

"Mark Morton"  wrote in message
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> I'm sure it's not correct, but the timings for the 2150
> Middlesbrough-Manchester Airport include a time for Morley, somewhere
> that TPX never calls at.


TPX have in the past had a token odd service here and there stop at Morley
(I vaguely recall one once on the way back from a Saturday afternoon
sampling the delights of the Star, Rat & Ratchet and Head of Steam...). A
quick scan of the Metro Huddersfield line timetable suggests it just enjoys
the delights of the stoppers currently though.

Carl Bowman wrote:
  > TPX have in the past had a token odd service here and there stop at 
Morley

> (I vaguely recall one once on the way back from a Saturday afternoon
> sampling the delights of the Star, Rat & Ratchet and Head of Steam...). A
> quick scan of the Metro Huddersfield line timetable suggests it just enjoys
> the delights of the stoppers currently though.


There was some talk last year about TPX stopping at Batley in peak 
hours, but that's not happened yet.

Mike Roebuck wrote:
At a guess it's a passing time, as calling at Morley Low would extend

> the 12 minute Leeds -Dewsbury start-to-stop time of 12 minutes, which
> this doesn't.


Probably the reason why Bradford Interchange is down as calling point 
for diverted TPXs:
http://195.40.43.138/8QD5P3B2/bin/bhftafel.exe/en/7000203/2:58

I'm not sure you can get actually into Bradford Interchange at 3 o'clock 
in the morning.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 21:49:15 +0100, Mark Morton
 wrote:


>Mike Roebuck wrote:
>At a guess it's a passing time, as calling at Morley Low would extend
>> the 12 minute Leeds -Dewsbury start-to-stop time of 12 minutes, which
>> this doesn't.
>
>Probably the reason why Bradford Interchange is down as calling point 
>for diverted TPXs:
>http://195.40.43.138/8QD5P3B2/bin/bhftafel.exe/en/7000203/2:58
>
>I'm not sure you can get actually into Bradford Interchange at 3 o'clock 
>in the morning.


I wondered about this. I saw a notice at Dewsbury station today
advertising short notice engineering work over the next week, which
means some overnight TPE services running non-stop from Manchester to
Leeds, but taking around 90 minutes for the trip. I assumed this meant
a reversal at Bradford Interchange, but it's equally possible they're
taking the L&Y route to York (Hebden Bridge - Brighouse - Mirfield -
Wakefield Kirkgate - Normanton - Castleford - Church Fenton).

If they are going via Bradford, presumably they won't be setting down
or picking up passengers there. Where is Interchange signalled from?
If it's Leeds power box, they won't need extra staff to do it.

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Mike

mikedotroebuckatgmxdotnet

Mike Roebuck wrote:

> I wondered about this. I saw a notice at Dewsbury station today
> advertising short notice engineering work over the next week, which
> means some overnight TPE services running non-stop from Manchester to
> Leeds, but taking around 90 minutes for the trip. I assumed this meant
> a reversal at Bradford Interchange, but it's equally possible they're
> taking the L&Y route to York (Hebden Bridge - Brighouse - Mirfield -
> Wakefield Kirkgate - Normanton - Castleford - Church Fenton).


It looks likely there's been some use of the L&Y route soon as there are 
quite a few different diversions planned for overnight TPXs soon:

http://www.wymetro.com/TrainTravel/DisruptionsDiversions/TransPennine.htm

"... After 2300 on Saturdays from 24 September 2005 and all day on 
Sundays from 25 September 2005.  Until 30 October 2005 trains will be 
diverted via the Calder Valley to Manchester Victoria all day with some 
trains not serving Huddersfield, also none calling at Stalybridge.  From 
6 November 2005 trains will be diverted between Leeds and Huddersfield 
not serving Dewsbury and from Stalybridge via Manchester Victoria all 
day... On all Sundays from 25 September 2005 before 0900 trains will be 
diverted not serving Huddersfield with replacement buses between Leeds, 
Huddersfield, Manchester Piccadilly and Manchester Airport."

And then in early September there's York-Huddersfield bypassing Leeds
http://195.40.43.138/8QD5P3B2/bin/zuginfo.exe/en/72252/70120/39908/4130/4095