Apparently,

Buses across the city have just stopped and kicked passengers off!!!

Sack the lot of them, they don't deserve another penny of our money, stop 
the subsidies!!!

Jimbobbery.

In article <dcqhi3$kt8$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>,
Jim  wrote:


>Buses across the city have just stopped and kicked passengers off!!!


No, they continued until the end of their route, or until they would
have been relieved by another driver, and then drove back to the depot.

-- Richard

"Richard Tobin"  wrote in message 
news:dcqpjn$10ms$1@pc-news.cogsci.ed.ac.uk...

> In article <dcqhi3$kt8$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>,
> Jim  wrote:
>
>>Buses across the city have just stopped and kicked passengers off!!!
>
> No, they continued until the end of their route, or until they would
> have been relieved by another driver, and then drove back to the depot.
>
>

Did they fuck!
My kids were on  the number 27 boarded at 13.26 heading for Tollcross and 
got kicked off at Firhill.
No phone no wherewithall to contact anyone and had to walk home leaving 
parents and graparents in a state of extreme alarm.
I wouldn't pay them in rusty washers, I hope the insensitive prick that 
forced an 11 year old and 14 year old off the bus gets fuck all then sacked.
DILLIGAFF if I get flamed on this, I have only just started.

In article <iL9Ie.82176$G8.25759@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
Rasman99  wrote:

>My kids were on  the number 27 boarded at 13.26 heading for Tollcross and 
>got kicked off at Firhill.


Probably the driver was due to be replaced at the end of his shift
with another who didn't turn up.

-- Richard

"Jim"  wrote in message
news:dcqhi3$kt8$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...

> Apparently,
>
> Buses across the city have just stopped and kicked passengers off!!!
>
> Sack the lot of them, they don't deserve another penny of our money, stop
> the subsidies!!!
>
> Jimbobbery.
>


Fuck em, I say. Lets do without buses for a week or two and then watch them
come crawling back cos they're skint.

The message <iL9Ie.82176$G8.25759@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
from "Rasman99"  contains these words:



> "Richard Tobin"  wrote in message 
> news:dcqpjn$10ms$1@pc-news.cogsci.ed.ac.uk...
> > In article <dcqhi3$kt8$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>,
> > Jim  wrote:
> >
> >>Buses across the city have just stopped and kicked passengers off!!!
> >
> > No, they continued until the end of their route, or until they would
> > have been relieved by another driver, and then drove back to the depot.
> >
> >
> Did they fuck!
> My kids were on  the number 27 boarded at 13.26 heading for Tollcross and 
> got kicked off at Firhill.
> No phone no wherewithall to contact anyone and had to walk home leaving 
> parents and graparents in a state of extreme alarm.
> I wouldn't pay them in rusty washers, I hope the insensitive prick that 
> forced an 11 year old and 14 year old off the bus gets fuck all then sacked.
> DILLIGAFF if I get flamed on this, I have only just started.


In that case - keep the tickets (as they will show the time of boarding
and route number which will identify the driver involved) and contact
CAB for advice.  I'm not certain, but I think that the driver has a
"Duty of care" which would include responsibility for children placed
onto the bus and he has been willfully negligent in that care. 
Photocopy the tickets and write to LRT as well - first step towards
getting him sacked.
I'd be equally flaming if it had happened to my kids.
Clair

"Richard Tobin"  wrote in message 
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> Probably the driver was due to be replaced at the end of his shift
> with another who didn't turn up.


Must have happened more than once as my wife's aunt(who has special needs) 
was kicked off her bus somewhere at the East end. She works at the 'St Judes 
Laundry' and has got the same bus there and back for years. When she was 
kicked off the bus she had some sort of panic attack due to the unfamiliar 
surroundings but luckily she had a mobile. One quick call and she was soon 
picked up. Could have been a lot different though!

-- 

!Speedy Gonzales!

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"Clair" <clairbarrass@no.spam.thanks> wrote in message 
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> The message <iL9Ie.82176$G8.25759@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
> from "Rasman99"  contains these words:
>
>
>> "Richard Tobin"  wrote in message
>> news:dcqpjn$10ms$1@pc-news.cogsci.ed.ac.uk...
>> > In article <dcqhi3$kt8$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>,
>> > Jim  wrote:
>> >
>> >>Buses across the city have just stopped and kicked passengers off!!!
>> >
>> > No, they continued until the end of their route, or until they would
>> > have been relieved by another driver, and then drove back to the depot.
>> >
>> >
>> Did they fuck!
>> My kids were on  the number 27 boarded at 13.26 heading for Tollcross and
>> got kicked off at Firhill.
>> No phone no wherewithall to contact anyone and had to walk home leaving
>> parents and graparents in a state of extreme alarm.
>> I wouldn't pay them in rusty washers, I hope the insensitive prick that
>> forced an 11 year old and 14 year old off the bus gets fuck all then 
>> sacked.
>> DILLIGAFF if I get flamed on this, I have only just started.
>
> In that case - keep the tickets (as they will show the time of boarding
> and route number which will identify the driver involved) and contact
> CAB for advice.  I'm not certain, but I think that the driver has a
> "Duty of care" which would include responsibility for children placed
> onto the bus and he has been willfully negligent in that care.
> Photocopy the tickets and write to LRT as well - first step towards
> getting him sacked.
> I'd be equally flaming if it had happened to my kids.
> Clair


Hi Clair,
I have the ticket in front of me. I am pretty mild mannered normally but 
when my kids get caught up in this sort of thing I go for the jugular as it 
is not acceptable.
Luckily my wife's work colleague can verifiy the kicking off bit at Firhill 
as she was trying to get her kids on the bus there.
I have asked LB to contact me tomorrow as a matter of urgency. I hadn't 
thought about the CAB I was more thinking of a lawyer I would sue them for 
the 1.20 as a point of principle.
My kids are luckily fit and well but perhaps not as streetwise as they could 
be but walked back to Fairemilehead on a nice day.
What about disabled/elderly/unwell people on their way to a long awaited 
appointment in the NHS.
As far as Richards comments are concerned it may be the case for him but the 
incident surrounding my kids is ascertainable and I will go for them.
Bus 27 boarded at 13.26 first stop along Oxgangs Rd

Ras
--

"neutron" <neutron(not real)@a.b.c.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:dcrgci$ed$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...

>
> "Jim"  wrote in message
> news:dcqhi3$kt8$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
>> Apparently,
>>
>> Buses across the city have just stopped and kicked passengers off!!!
>>
>> Sack the lot of them, they don't deserve another penny of our money, stop
>> the subsidies!!!
>>
>> Jimbobbery.
>>
>
> Fuck em, I say. Lets do without buses for a week or two and then watch 
> them
> come crawling back cos they're skint.
>

Up until now I would disagree with you strongly , but start lobbing people 
of  a  bus with no notice or way back home. Then my support has gone and I 
hope they lose their jobs.
R

"!Speedy Gonzales!"  wrote in 
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> "Richard Tobin"  wrote in message 
> news:dcrfrj$17hp$1@pc-news.cogsci.ed.ac.uk...
>> Probably the driver was due to be replaced at the end of his shift
>> with another who didn't turn up.
>
> Must have happened more than once as my wife's aunt(who has special needs) 
> was kicked off her bus somewhere at the East end. She works at the 'St 
> Judes Laundry' and has got the same bus there and back for years. When she 
> was kicked off the bus she had some sort of panic attack due to the 
> unfamiliar surroundings but luckily she had a mobile. One quick call and 
> she was soon picked up. Could have been a lot different though!
>
>Utterly appalling, I have paid union dues since I was 16 (more fool me) I 
>would support most workers trying to improve their own lifes but I can'rt 
>support action like that. I hope you go for them big time.

I'm glad it worked out OK  for your wifes aunt she has my sympathy and best 
wishes.
As I have stated in another post Richard seems to have been lucky or not 
know the reality of their actions.

Ras
--

> Up until now I would disagree with you strongly , but start lobbing people
> of  a  bus with no notice or way back home. Then my support has gone and I
> hope they lose their jobs.


While I agree it was a pretty shitey thing to do, I think you're being
a wee bit presumptious.

You're assuming that all those on strike:

- Were involved with the drivers who were kicking off passengers.
- Agreed with those actions.

It's quite possible that these bastards might just be plants, trying to
undermine public support; bear that in mind.

- How many drivers, out of all the LRT buses in Edinburgh,
unceremoniously kicked passengers off their buses?
- How many even knew about it?

Angus

wrote in message 
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>> Up until now I would disagree with you strongly , but start lobbing 
>> people
>> of  a  bus with no notice or way back home. Then my support has gone and 
>> I
>> hope they lose their jobs.
>
> While I agree it was a pretty shitey thing to do, I think you're being
> a wee bit presumptious.
>
> You're assuming that all those on strike:
>
> - Were involved with the drivers who were kicking off passengers.
> - Agreed with those actions.
>
> It's quite possible that these bastards might just be plants, trying to
> undermine public support; bear that in mind.
>
> - How many drivers, out of all the LRT buses in Edinburgh,
> unceremoniously kicked passengers off their buses?
> - How many even knew about it?
>
> Angus


I fail to see what I am presuming the facts surrounding my children are 
ascertainable. I dont give a monkeys how many, they are all implicated in 
this. I noted that the majority couldn't be bothered to get of their 
backsides to go to ther union meeting.
As far as the plant theory goes, I have the ticket they can tell me who he 
is and he can either come and give me his explanation, if not I want him 
sacked plain and simple.

Let me be clear, if you endanger  or damage my 11 year old girl trying to 
get confidence in life, with action a self centered action like that I will 
go for you big time.

Ras
--
PS I have been a union member all my working life and would support them 
wholly, I don't cross picket lines but I  think I know the difference 
between right and wrong this guy was wrong.

> It's quite possible that these bastards might just be plants, trying to
> undermine public support; bear that in mind.


You've been reading too many of Hansen's posts: It's the evil goverment
conspiracy to undermine the bus drivers!

Quick, check Indymedia for incriminating pictures of the evil bus
moles...

> You've been reading too many of Hansen's posts: It's the evil goverment
> conspiracy to undermine the bus drivers!


That's right: conspiracies never happen in this country.

Angus

It was a wildcat strike: how could Lothian Black Helicopters and Busses
Inc. have planted people in a wildcat strike? Unless they speculativley
planted people in case there was a wildcat strike... which sounds far
more organised and prescient  than anything the council has been
involved in in my experience. And surely if there was ever proof of
such a strategy, then LB could be sued to pieces, not to mention bad
publicity. Sounds like the game wouldn't be worth the candle.

angus_creech@hotmail.com wrote:


>> You've been reading too many of Hansen's posts: It's the evil goverment
>> conspiracy to undermine the bus drivers!

> That's right: conspiracies never happen in this country.


Only because there are secret plans to prevent them.

FoFP

> It was a wildcat strike: how could Lothian Black Helicopters and Busses
> Inc. have planted people in a wildcat strike? Unless they speculativley
> planted people in case there was a wildcat strike... which sounds far
> more organised and prescient  than anything the council has been
> involved in in my experience.


Of course, the best way to agitate is to simply to encourage the wrong
people who think they're right, and retreat to a safe distance - like
handing a pyromaniac matches to start the bonfire; a van der Lubbe for
their Reichstag. But I concede, this is Edinburgh Council we're talking
about.

Unless --
  it's aliens, or the FBI..

Angus

wrote in message
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> It's quite possible that these bastards might just be plants, trying to
> undermine public support; bear that in mind.


Oh ffs, a conspiracy theory...

> > It's quite possible that these bastards might just be plants, trying to
> > undermine public support; bear that in mind.
> 
> Oh ffs, a conspiracy theory...


They told me you'd say that.

Angus

In article <YLjIe.82383$G8.23146@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
   Rasman99  wrote:


> I fail to see what I am presuming the facts surrounding my children
> are ascertainable...

> Let me be clear, if you endanger  or damage my 11 year old girl
> trying to get confidence in life..


When your kids were chucked off the bus, why were they not able to
phone you?  Do they - unlike every other child in the country - not
have a mobile?  Even if they don't, was no-one else around able to ring
on their behalf?

-- 
Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own.

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 19:08:19 +0100, Jeremy C B Nicoll
 wrote:


>In article <YLjIe.82383$G8.23146@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>   Rasman99  wrote:
>
>> I fail to see what I am presuming the facts surrounding my children
>> are ascertainable...
>
>> Let me be clear, if you endanger  or damage my 11 year old girl
>> trying to get confidence in life..
>
>When your kids were chucked off the bus, why were they not able to
>phone you?  Do they - unlike every other child in the country - not
>have a mobile?  Even if they don't, was no-one else around able to ring
>on their behalf?


Like a stranger perhaps.   An 11 y/o goes up to a stranger and says
"I'm stranded, will you phone home for me?"   

Jen

In article  Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk wrote...


> When your kids were chucked off the bus, why were they not able to
> phone you?  Do they - unlike every other child in the country - not
> have a mobile?  Even if they don't, was no-one else around able to ring
> on their behalf?


Are you going to ask his child to walk up to complete strangers in the
street and volunteer the information that they are stranded and unable
to contact their parents?

Mike Dickson, Edinburgh, Scotland

In article  angus_creech@hotmail.com wrote...


> > You've been reading too many of Hansen's posts: It's the evil goverment
> > conspiracy to undermine the bus drivers!
>
> That's right: conspiracies never happen in this country.


Hardly *ever*.

Mike Dickson, Edinburgh, Scotland

At least it looks like the action will soon come to an end with the calling 
off of next weeks industrial action.  A few hours of some buses off the road 
is better than an indefinite strike.
IMHO

"Rasman99"  wrote in message
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>
> DILLIGAFF if I get flamed on this, I have only just started.


Sorry for focussing on the trivial but what does DILLIGAFF mean?

Tamzin

Tamzin wrote:

> "Rasman99"  wrote in message
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> 
>>DILLIGAFF if I get flamed on this, I have only just started.
> 
> 
> Sorry for focussing on the trivial but what does DILLIGAFF mean?


Does I Look Like I Give A Flying Fuck ?

Google is your friend. (Or your enemy, or your pet, who can tell?)

Tamzin wrote:

> "Rasman99"  wrote in message
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> 
>>DILLIGAFF if I get flamed on this, I have only just started.
> 
> 
> Sorry for focussing on the trivial but what does DILLIGAFF mean?


Does It Look Like I Give A Flying Fuck ?

Google is your friend. (Or your enemy, or your pet, who can tell?)

Tamzin wrote:

> "Rasman99"  wrote in message
> news:iL9Ie.82176$G8.25759@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >
> > DILLIGAFF if I get flamed on this, I have only just started.
>
> Sorry for focussing on the trivial but what does DILLIGAFF mean?


http://www.acronymfinder.com/

Flip is the polite version


-- 
yours S

Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione

In article <KhKJe.84666$G8.45763@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
 "soup"  writes:

> Tamzin wrote:
> > "Rasman99"  wrote in message
> > news:iL9Ie.82176$G8.25759@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > >
> > > DILLIGAFF if I get flamed on this, I have only just started.
> >
> > Sorry for focussing on the trivial but what does DILLIGAFF mean?
> 
> http://www.acronymfinder.com/
> 
> Flip is the polite version


It's very poor syntax, though: it ought to be DILAIIGAFF.
-- 
SAm.

sam@ssrl.org.uk (Sam Nelson) writes:


> In article <KhKJe.84666$G8.45763@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>  "soup"  writes:
> > Tamzin wrote:
> > > "Rasman99"  wrote in message
> > > news:iL9Ie.82176$G8.25759@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > > >
> > > > DILLIGAFF if I get flamed on this, I have only just started.
> > >
> > > Sorry for focussing on the trivial but what does DILLIGAFF mean?
> > 
> > http://www.acronymfinder.com/
> > 
> > Flip is the polite version
> 
> It's very poor syntax, though: it ought to be DILAIIGAFF.


Mindless pedant.

-- 
Well, I know better now