We are used to the BBC using a third-rail electric train to illustrate
just about any railway story.

But a Silverlink poster I've recently noticed, dated May 2005, shows an
ABB 465/0 or 465/1 in NSE colours.

See http://www.trainstuff.org.uk/silverlinkposter.

You'd think that in their own advertising, TOCs would use images of
their own trains in their own colours.

Or am I missing the joke?

"MIG"  wrote in message 
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> We are used to the BBC using a third-rail electric train to illustrate
> just about any railway story.
>
> But a Silverlink poster I've recently noticed, dated May 2005, shows an
> ABB 465/0 or 465/1 in NSE colours.
>
> See http://www.trainstuff.org.uk/silverlinkposter.
>
> You'd think that in their own advertising, TOCs would use images of
> their own trains in their own colours.
>
> Or am I missing the joke?
>


Just out of interest, how do you know it's an ABB 465?

>From the window, visible through the door window.


The Alsthom 465s had windows more like the ABB (Brel) 165s, with
squarer corners.

Also, the way that the window frame is wider round the top,
corresonding to the different way the windows flap down.

I can't think of any other classes with plug doors in NSE colours.

On 2 Aug 2005 12:35:29 -0700, "MIG" 
wrote:


>See http://www.trainstuff.org.uk/silverlinkposter.
>
>You'd think that in their own advertising, TOCs would use images of
>their own trains in their own colours.


I don't really see why they should - to most people, a train is a
train and they won't even notice what colour it is. Even the people
who do notice are unlikely to change theur mind about whether they
travel by train (or use GroupSave) because of it. So it really doesn't
seem worthwhile going out and staging and shooting a new photograph,
when a stock photo is available.

MIG wrote:

> We are used to the BBC using a third-rail electric train to illustrate
> just about any railway story.
>
> But a Silverlink poster I've recently noticed, dated May 2005, shows an
> ABB 465/0 or 465/1 in NSE colours.
>
> See http://www.trainstuff.org.uk/silverlinkposter.
>
> You'd think that in their own advertising, TOCs would use images of
> their own trains in their own colours.
>
> Or am I missing the joke?


Perhaps it's a generic promotional image produced by ATOC and adapted
for use by the TOC concerned.

Mizter T wrote:

> Perhaps it's a generic promotional image produced by ATOC and adapted
> for use by the TOC concerned.



That or a general NX pic to be used on all their franchises?
WAGN often use the cartoon drawing of the 357s in things

On 2 Aug 2005 12:35:29 -0700, "MIG" 
wrote:


>You'd think that in their own advertising, TOCs would use images of
>their own trains in their own colours.
>
>Or am I missing the joke?


I recall that the GroupSave promotion is one that is offered by most
of the NSE TOCs, so it's probably a standard shot.

Neil

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"MIG"  wrote in message 
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> >From the window, visible through the door window.
>
> The Alsthom 465s had windows more like the ABB (Brel) 165s, with
> squarer corners.
>
> Also, the way that the window frame is wider round the top,
> corresonding to the different way the windows flap down.
>
> I can't think of any other classes with plug doors in NSE colours.
>


I'm sure it's a "networker" class.  I agree the doors are too unusual.  Is 
Alsthom the same as Metro Camel (sp?)?

Personally speaking, those yellow triangle stickers on the door windows seem 
to rule out a 465/466 as I've never seen them in 
South-Eastern\Arrow\Connex\South-Eastern trains.

"JB"  wrote in message 
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>
> "MIG"  wrote in message 
> news:1123011917.152807.98280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> >From the window, visible through the door window.
>>
>> The Alsthom 465s had windows more like the ABB (Brel) 165s, with
>> squarer corners.
>>
>> Also, the way that the window frame is wider round the top,
>> corresonding to the different way the windows flap down.
>>
>> I can't think of any other classes with plug doors in NSE colours.
>>
>
> I'm sure it's a "networker" class.  I agree the doors are too 
> unusual.  Is Alsthom the same as Metro Camel (sp?)?
>
> Personally speaking, those yellow triangle stickers on the door 
> windows seem to rule out a 465/466 as I've never seen them in 
> South-Eastern\Arrow\Connex\South-Eastern trains.


Its also got a wheelchair sticker on the door, so it may well be a 365 
rather than 465, as I don't recall the 465's having wheelchair spaces.

Matt Wheeler wrote:

> "JB"  wrote in message
> news:1123023392.9065.0@nnrp-t71-02.news.clara.net...
> >
> > "MIG"  wrote in message
> > news:1123011917.152807.98280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >> >From the window, visible through the door window.
> >>
> >> The Alsthom 465s had windows more like the ABB (Brel) 165s, with
> >> squarer corners.
> >>
> >> Also, the way that the window frame is wider round the top,
> >> corresonding to the different way the windows flap down.
> >>
> >> I can't think of any other classes with plug doors in NSE colours.
> >>
> >
> > I'm sure it's a "networker" class.  I agree the doors are too
> > unusual.  Is Alsthom the same as Metro Camel (sp?)?
> >
> > Personally speaking, those yellow triangle stickers on the door
> > windows seem to rule out a 465/466 as I've never seen them in
> > South-Eastern\Arrow\Connex\South-Eastern trains.
>
> Its also got a wheelchair sticker on the door, so it may well be a 365
> rather than 465, as I don't recall the 465's having wheelchair spaces.



I didn't spot that.  If so, it must be a WAGN one, if they were in NSE
colours.  The South Eastern ones were in a different colour scheme with
yellow on them.

>I recall that the GroupSave promotion is one that is offered by most
>of the NSE TOCs, so it's probably a standard shot.



I think that's a far more likely explanation than "a train is a train".
 If the TOCs believed that, they wouldn't have bothered with such
garish branding in the first place.

That would mean it's a standard poster with Silverlink logo added.
I'll have to look out for it elsewhere.

Lucky so many trains are still in NSE colours for use as "standard
train".  (I'm sure there's some lesson to be learned there about
unified networks ...)

On 3 Aug 2005 01:08:57 -0700, "MIG" 
wrote:


>That would mean it's a standard poster with Silverlink logo added.
>I'll have to look out for it elsewhere.


The poster itself is in a distinctive Silverlink style (for those
familiar with its usual branding and poster styles), so you may not
see the poster itself, but I suspect you will see the image.  Indeed,
I think I have seen it elsewhere myself.

Neil

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