Which Class of Train runs on the follwoing routes.

London to Windsor - Eaton (Both FGW and SW)

Victoria to Bromley South

Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour

Thanks

"Robert McCall"  wrote in message
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> Which Class of Train runs on the follwoing routes.
>
> London to Windsor - Eaton (Both FGW and SW)


Windsor & Eton (no "a") is served by 450's on SWT and 165's/166's, with a
change at Slough on FGW.


> Victoria to Bromley South


When I travelled through Bromley South on the way to Margate I was on a 375.


> Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour


444's.

If I'm wrong, I'm sure one of the more knowledgable members of the group
will correct me.

> London to Windsor - Eaton (Both FGW and SW)


I'm pretty sure FGWL doesn't have any direct trains anymore, as it
causes big chaos on the main line (Windsor, unlike Marlow and Henley,
are on the main l ine and FGW don't want anything stopping their long
distance trains. The plan is to stop fast trains from Slough for the
next franchise).

The Slough-Windsor train (one train, bay platform at slough, single
line to windsor) is a 165 or 166, I believe it's a 165.

Dunno about the rest.

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:33:24 +0100, "Robert McCall"
 wrote:


>Which Class of Train runs on the follwoing routes.
>
>Victoria to Bromley South


If you're lucky you could still get a 423. Otherwise, could be a
375/376 or 365/465/466.

"asdf" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:33:24 +0100, "Robert McCall"
>  wrote:
>
>>Which Class of Train runs on the follwoing routes.
>>
>>Victoria to Bromley South
>
> If you're lucky you could still get a 423. Otherwise, could be a
> 375/376 or 365/465/466. .
>
>
>

Class 1, 2 and 5.

"asdf" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:33:24 +0100, "Robert McCall"
>  wrote:
>
> >Which Class of Train runs on the follwoing routes.
> >
> >Victoria to Bromley South
>
> If you're lucky you could still get a 423. Otherwise, could be a
> 375/376 or 365/465/466.


365s have all long gone to WAGN. Are any 376s booked on the Victoria -
Bromley South line - I thought they all worked out of Charing Cross and
Cannon Street?

Peter

> Windsor & Eton (no "a") is served by 450's on SWT and 165's/166's, with a
> change at Slough on FGW.


HSTs and Class 180s also call at Slough.

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 16:33:24 UTC, "Robert McCall" 
 wrote:

: Which Class of Train runs on the follwoing routes.
: 
: London to Windsor - Eaton (Both FGW and SW)

Upper

: Victoria to Bromley South

Lower middle
 
: Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour

Working.

Ian

"Joe"  wrote in message
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> > Windsor & Eton (no "a") is served by 450's on SWT and 165's/166's, with
a
> > change at Slough on FGW.
>
> HSTs and Class 180s also call at Slough.


True, but they don't call at W&E!
: )

> > HSTs and Class 180s also call at Slough.
> True, but they don't call at W&E!


But the OP asked for London - Windsor & Eton, therefore there is a
chance that he may travel between London & Slough on a 180 or HST, as
well as a 165/166.

On 31 Jul 2005 11:08:13 -0700, "Joe" 
wrote:


>> Windsor & Eton (no "a") is served by 450's on SWT and 165's/166's, with a
>> change at Slough on FGW.
>
>HSTs and Class 180s also call at Slough.


HST is very unlikely - not many stop at Slough, but Class 180s do
regularly so a 180 or Turbo is quite likely.

"Ian Johnston"  wrote:


>On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 16:33:24 UTC, "Robert McCall" 
> wrote:
>
>: Which Class of Train runs on the follwoing routes.
>: 
>: London to Windsor - Eaton (Both FGW and SW)
>
>Upper
>
>: Victoria to Bromley South
>
>Lower middle
> 
>: Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour
>
>Working.



I like that.  ;-)

One correction; passengers from Staines joining services on the London
/ Windsor and Eton Riverside route would definitely be Working.

Working, not Woking.  But they would be Working at Woking too, albeit
Woking is not on the same route.

;-)

>Windsor & Eton (no "a") is served by 450's on SWT and 165's/166's, >with a
>change at Slough on FGW.




Will 450s continue on the Windsor route once all the 455s are done up?
Last week I saw a 450 on the Hounslow loop, which surely won't
continue.

It's odd how SWT has replaced all slam-door stock while its suburban
stock is not all in action, but SET is still using slam-door stock
while awaiting the return of the 465/9s (not that I mind).

On 1 Aug 2005 02:19:11 -0700, "MIG" 
wrote:


>Will 450s continue on the Windsor route once all the 455s are done up?
>Last week I saw a 450 on the Hounslow loop, which surely won't
>continue.
>


AFAIR the Weybridge line has been dominated by outer suburban /
mainline stock (Veps, Ceps, Junipers) for some time. Some of the
Hounslow trains go to Weybridge, so 'reducing' them to 455s would be a
downgrade for the Weybridge line residents. It does seem far enough
out to deserve outer suburban trains, but then I think the same of
some other 455-dominated routes (e.g. Cobham).

On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:10:23 GMT, 1577+2260 <someone@somewhere.x>
wrote:


>AFAIR the Weybridge line has been dominated by outer suburban /
>mainline stock (Veps, Ceps, Junipers) 


I'd better add ', Desiros' before some pedant gets on my case... :)


>AFAIR the Weybridge line has been dominated by outer suburban /
>mainline stock (Veps, Ceps, Junipers, Desiros) 

>AFAIR the Weybridge line has been dominated by outer suburban /
>mainline stock (Veps, Ceps, Junipers) for some time. Some of the
>Hounslow trains go to Weybridge, so 'reducing' them to 455s would be a
>downgrade for the Weybridge line residents. It does seem far enough
>out to deserve outer suburban trains, but then I think the same of
>some other 455-dominated routes (e.g. Cobham).



That's fair enough, but last week I saw a 450 doing "Hounslow via
Richmond", ie short loop back to Waterloo via Brentford.

"MIG"  wrote

>
> It's odd how SWT has replaced all slam-door stock while its suburban
> stock is not all in action, but SET is still using slam-door stock
> while awaiting the return of the 465/9s (not that I mind).
>

SWT has got cover from its 458s, which it will presumably get rid of when
they go off lease/the 455s come back from refurb.

Peter

MIG wrote:

>> AFAIR the Weybridge line has been dominated by outer suburban /
>> mainline stock (Veps, Ceps, Junipers) for some time. Some of the
>> Hounslow trains go to Weybridge, so 'reducing' them to 455s would
>> be a downgrade for the Weybridge line residents. It does seem far
>> enough out to deserve outer suburban trains, but then I think the
>> same of some other 455-dominated routes (e.g. Cobham).

> That's fair enough, but last week I saw a 450 doing "Hounslow via
> Richmond", ie short loop back to Waterloo via Brentford.


Both services on the Hounslow Loop, i.e. Waterloo-Weybridge and
Waterloo-Hounslow-Waterloo, have used 450s since the new timetable
started last December.  I understand that the 1st class sections are
declassified on both services (though there is nothing to say so).  Was
1st class declassified on the VEPs etc that previously served Weybridge?
-- 
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 14:19:48 GMT, "Richard J."
 wrote:


>
>Both services on the Hounslow Loop, i.e. Waterloo-Weybridge and
>Waterloo-Hounslow-Waterloo, have used 450s since the new timetable
>started last December.  I understand that the 1st class sections are
>declassified on both services (though there is nothing to say so).  Was
>1st class declassified on the VEPs etc that previously served Weybridge?


It does say on the customer displays that "all seats on this train are
Standard Class" every few minutes, and I have heard some manual
announcements from guards.

400 series stock was also declassified on any SWT service where there
was no advertised 1st Class accommodation, but obviously there was no
easy way of making announcements (PA on 400s is very temperamental to
say the least!)

Peter Masson wrote:

> "MIG"  wrote
> >
> > It's odd how SWT has replaced all slam-door stock while its suburban
> > stock is not all in action, but SET is still using slam-door stock
> > while awaiting the return of the 465/9s (not that I mind).
> >
> SWT has got cover from its 458s, which it will presumably get rid of when
> they go off lease/the 455s come back from refurb.
>
> Peter



Yes of course (light dawns again).  Now you mention it, I remember
working that out for myself one drunken evening, but then obviously
forgot that I'd worked it out once I was sober.

"Tony Polson"  wrote in message
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> "Ian Johnston"  wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 16:33:24 UTC, "Robert McCall"
> > wrote:
> >
> >: Which Class of Train runs on the follwoing routes.
> >:
> >: London to Windsor - Eaton (Both FGW and SW)
> >
> >Upper
> >
> >: Victoria to Bromley South
> >
> >Lower middle
> >
> >: Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour
> >
> >Working.
>
>
> I like that.  ;-)
>
> One correction; passengers from Staines joining services on the London
> / Windsor and Eton Riverside route would definitely be Working.


Oi!!!  I resemble that remark!!!  I'll have you know that us lot in Staines
are by no means working class!!!  Lower, maybe, but definitley *not*
working!
: )

"Peter Masson"  wrote:


>365s have all long gone to WAGN. Are any 376s booked on the Victoria -
>Bromley South line - I thought they all worked out of Charing Cross and
>Cannon Street?


I commute into Victoria and I've yet to see a 376 there.

Roy
-- 
"Money is a sign of poverty" - old Culture proverb

>I commute into Victoria and I've yet to see a 376 there.



I saw one parked in the Victoria depot when they were first being
introduced, but I don't know why it was there.

1577+2260 wrote:


> HST is very unlikely - not many stop at Slough, but Class 180s do
> regularly so a 180 or Turbo is quite likely.


Last time I made this journey I changed to an HST (which was operating 
an Oxford service) at Slough.

Quite disappointed actually, I was looking forward to seeing how 180s 
are doing these days.

Philip.