Went out today and tried to start the car,rover 620i-petrol all it will do
is click,changed battery and starter motor but still wont start or turn over
just clicks like the starters not throwing in but the one i got is brand
new.

Is there something which may be preventing it from starting?L-plate 1994 if
it helps,no immobilzer that i'm aware off.
Cam belt all in tact so at a bit of a loss.

"simondo"  wrote in message 
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> Went out today and tried to start the car,rover 620i-petrol all it will do
> is click,changed battery and starter motor but still wont start or turn 
> over
> just clicks like the starters not throwing in but the one i got is brand
> new.
>
> Is there something which may be preventing it from starting?L-plate 1994 
> if
> it helps,no immobilzer that i'm aware off.
> Cam belt all in tact so at a bit of a loss.
>

Earth strap from chassis to engine block snapped?

JB

JB wrote:

> "simondo"  wrote in message
> news:Ck8Ge.15629$Fx3.3336@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>> Went out today and tried to start the car,rover 620i-petrol all it
>> will do is click,changed battery and starter motor but still wont
>> start or turn over
>> just clicks like the starters not throwing in but the one i got is
>> brand new.
>>
>> Is there something which may be preventing it from starting?L-plate
>> 1994 if
>> it helps,no immobilzer that i'm aware off.
>> Cam belt all in tact so at a bit of a loss.
>>
> Earth strap from chassis to engine block snapped?
>


You could try jump leads direct from battery to starter...

Watch out for them welding themselves to things though!

"PC Paul"  wrote in message
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> JB wrote:
> > "simondo"  wrote in message
> > news:Ck8Ge.15629$Fx3.3336@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> >> Went out today and tried to start the car,rover 620i-petrol all it
> >> will do is click,changed battery and starter motor but still wont
> >> start or turn over
> >> just clicks like the starters not throwing in but the one i got is
> >> brand new.
> >>
> >> Is there something which may be preventing it from starting?L-plate
> >> 1994 if
> >> it helps,no immobilzer that i'm aware off.
> >> Cam belt all in tact so at a bit of a loss.
> >>
> > Earth strap from chassis to engine block snapped?
> >
>
> You could try jump leads direct from battery to starter...
>
> Watch out for them welding themselves to things though!
>
>
> Tried that but thanks,jumped it off a fully charged battery and tried a

booster pack as well still no go.

"JB"  wrote in message
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>
> "simondo"  wrote in message
> news:Ck8Ge.15629$Fx3.3336@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> > Went out today and tried to start the car,rover 620i-petrol all it will
do
> > is click,changed battery and starter motor but still wont start or turn
> > over
> > just clicks like the starters not throwing in but the one i got is brand
> > new.
> >
> > Is there something which may be preventing it from starting?L-plate 1994
> > if
> > it helps,no immobilzer that i'm aware off.
> > Cam belt all in tact so at a bit of a loss.
> >
> Earth strap from chassis to engine block snapped?
>
> JB
>
> Will have a look thanks.

simondo wrote:

> "PC Paul"  wrote in message
> news:lt8Ge.246253$Vo6.147745@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> JB wrote:
>>> "simondo"  wrote in message
>>> news:Ck8Ge.15629$Fx3.3336@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> Went out today and tried to start the car,rover 620i-petrol all it
>>>> will do is click,changed battery and starter motor but still wont
>>>> start or turn over
>>>> just clicks like the starters not throwing in but the one i got is
>>>> brand new.
>>>>
>>>> Is there something which may be preventing it from starting?L-plate
>>>> 1994 if
>>>> it helps,no immobilzer that i'm aware off.
>>>> Cam belt all in tact so at a bit of a loss.
>>>>
>>> Earth strap from chassis to engine block snapped?
>>>
>>
>> You could try jump leads direct from battery to starter...
>>
>> Watch out for them welding themselves to things though!
>>
>>
>> Tried that but thanks,jumped it off a fully charged battery and
>> tried a
> booster pack as well still no go.


Actually direct to the terminals on the starter motor? If thats the case 
then the starter must be jammed (or duff).

"simondo"  wrote in message 
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> Went out today and tried to start the car,rover 620i-petrol all it will do
> is click,changed battery and starter motor but still wont start or turn 
> over
> just clicks like the starters not throwing in but the one i got is brand
> new.
>
> Is there something which may be preventing it from starting?L-plate 1994 
> if
> it helps,no immobilzer that i'm aware off.
> Cam belt all in tact so at a bit of a loss.
>
>

Broken cable to the starter motor? They can fracture internally.

-- 
Malc

"Your mother can't climb stairs"
Dalek playground taunt

PC Paul wrote:


> Actually direct to the terminals on the starter motor? If thats the case 
> then the starter must be jammed (or duff).


Or the lump is seized...

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:10:58 GMT, simondo wrote:


> Went out today and tried to start the car,rover 620i-petrol all it will do
> is click,changed battery and starter motor but still wont start or turn over
> just clicks like the starters not throwing in but the one i got is brand
> new.
> 
> Is there something which may be preventing it from starting?L-plate 1994 if
> it helps,no immobilzer that i'm aware off.
> Cam belt all in tact so at a bit of a loss.


Pull the plugs and check you don't have a cylinder full of water from a
blown head or inlet manifold gasket

"Chris Street"  wrote in message
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> On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:10:58 GMT, simondo wrote:
>
> > Went out today and tried to start the car,rover 620i-petrol all it will
do
> > is click,changed battery and starter motor but still wont start or turn
over
> > just clicks like the starters not throwing in but the one i got is brand
> > new.
> >
> > Is there something which may be preventing it from starting?L-plate 1994
if
> > it helps,no immobilzer that i'm aware off.
> > Cam belt all in tact so at a bit of a loss.
>
> Pull the plugs and check you don't have a cylinder full of water from a
> blown head or inlet manifold gasket



Will check out all replies and get back many thanks to all.

I hate to sound depressing but I had a 214 which blew a head gasket.
Speaking to a mechanic, he said it was a common problem with those
engines (he did one car 4 times!), not sure if the 620 is the same
series engine but it was a 'K' year reg car I had.

Lee wrote:

> PC Paul wrote:
>
>> Actually direct to the terminals on the starter motor? If thats the
>> case then the starter must be jammed (or duff).
>
> Or the lump is seized...


Well at least it isn't like the Rover down our road a week or so back.

Saw him trying to start it for a while with no luck, so I wandered over (to 
gloat? you decide ;-) )

It was turning over but making no attempt to fire, and there was a strange 
dull thunk at about 2Hz.

Turned out the belt had gone and the thunk was a piston banging into it's 
valves. :-(

"simondo"  wrote in message
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>
> "Chris Street"  wrote in message
> news:c71yh5a30b10.1cbcvuuvcmedj$.dlg@40tude.net...
> > On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:10:58 GMT, simondo wrote:
> >
> > > Went out today and tried to start the car,rover 620i-petrol all it
will
> do
> > > is click,changed battery and starter motor but still wont start or
turn
> over
> > > just clicks like the starters not throwing in but the one i got is
brand
> > > new.
> > >
> > > Is there something which may be preventing it from starting?L-plate
1994
> if
> > > it helps,no immobilzer that i'm aware off.
> > > Cam belt all in tact so at a bit of a loss.
> >
> > Pull the plugs and check you don't have a cylinder full of water from a
> > blown head or inlet manifold gasket
>
>
> Will check out all replies and get back many thanks to all.
>

Well looks like the head gasket has gone,lost water and oil is a greyish
colour with a hint of mayo on the oil filler cap.
What are these like to do?

>

In article <7soGe.4576$hc4.3071@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, simondo says...


> Well looks like the head gasket has gone,lost water and oil is a greyish
> colour with a hint of mayo on the oil filler cap.
> What are these like to do?


Only one way to find out. It's a jap engine so it won't be too bad.


-- 
Conor

-You wanted an argument? Oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse. You want room 
K5, just along the corridor. Stupid git. (Monty Python)

In article ,  
says...

> I hate to sound depressing but I had a 214 which blew a head gasket.
> Speaking to a mechanic, he said it was a common problem with those
> engines (he did one car 4 times!), not sure if the 620 is the same
> series engine but it was a 'K' year reg car I had.
> 

It isn't. They saw common sense and fitted a Honda unit.


-- 
Conor

-You wanted an argument? Oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse. You want room 
K5, just along the corridor. Stupid git. (Monty Python)

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:35:25 +0100, Conor wrote:


> In article ,  
> says...
>> I hate to sound depressing but I had a 214 which blew a head gasket.
>> Speaking to a mechanic, he said it was a common problem with those
>> engines (he did one car 4 times!), not sure if the 620 is the same
>> series engine but it was a 'K' year reg car I had.
>> 
> It isn't. They saw common sense and fitted a Honda unit.


K reg 214's were Japanese engines

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:31:15 GMT, simondo wrote:


> "simondo"  wrote in message
> news:vjlGe.14907$Oe4.4594@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> "Chris Street"  wrote in message
>> news:c71yh5a30b10.1cbcvuuvcmedj$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:10:58 GMT, simondo wrote:
>>>
>>> > Went out today and tried to start the car,rover 620i-petrol all it
> will
>> do
>>> > is click,changed battery and starter motor but still wont start or
> turn
>> over
>>> > just clicks like the starters not throwing in but the one i got is
> brand
>>> > new.
>>> >
>>> > Is there something which may be preventing it from starting?L-plate
> 1994
>> if
>>> > it helps,no immobilzer that i'm aware off.
>>> > Cam belt all in tact so at a bit of a loss.
>>>
>>> Pull the plugs and check you don't have a cylinder full of water from a
>>> blown head or inlet manifold gasket
>>
>>
>> Will check out all replies and get back many thanks to all.
>>
> Well looks like the head gasket has gone,lost water and oil is a greyish
> colour with a hint of mayo on the oil filler cap.
> What are these like to do?
>>


Not sure as I had the 1.4 litre version. Make sure that you get the very
latest gasket set, (seven revisions of the head on the 214 for example!)
get the Haynes manual, get a cambelt and tensioner and waterpump if you
feel really generous and get to it. The only tricky think is the timing
mark is under the crank pulley so that has to come off but it's relatively
easy. About four hours on the roadside to do mine.

"simondo"  wrote in message 
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> Went out today and tried to start the car,rover 620i-petrol all it will do
> is click,changed battery and starter motor but still wont start or turn 
> over
> just clicks like the starters not throwing in but the one i got is brand
> new.
>
> Is there something which may be preventing it from starting?L-plate 1994 
> if
> it helps,no immobilzer that i'm aware off.
> Cam belt all in tact so at a bit of a loss.



Utterly dead battery - if it's dead you won't be able to jump start with 
another battery.

-- 
The DervMan
www.dervman.com

"DervMan"  wrote in message
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> "simondo"  wrote in message
> news:Ck8Ge.15629$Fx3.3336@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> > Went out today and tried to start the car,rover 620i-petrol all it will
do
> > is click,changed battery and starter motor but still wont start or turn
> > over
> > just clicks like the starters not throwing in but the one i got is brand
> > new.
> >
> > Is there something which may be preventing it from starting?L-plate 1994
> > if
> > it helps,no immobilzer that i'm aware off.
> > Cam belt all in tact so at a bit of a loss.
>
>
> Utterly dead battery - if it's dead you won't be able to jump start with
> another battery.
>
> -- 
> The DervMan
> www.dervman.com
>
> Tried direct to the starter with a fully charged battery still no joy.

>> Utterly dead battery - if it's dead you won't be able to jump start with
>> another battery.

>> Tried direct to the starter with a fully charged battery still no joy.


That won't neccessarily be any good, as the ignition system needs at least 
*some* voltage there to power the low tension (LT) circuit - just putting a 
decent amount of power to the starter is only part of the picture.  Take the 
old battery out, and properly replace it with a good one.  Then try.

-- 
Peter

"You're not a real UKRCMer until you've owned a Rover 620ti."

"AstraVanMan"  wrote in message
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> >> Utterly dead battery - if it's dead you won't be able to jump start
with
> >> another battery.
>
> >> Tried direct to the starter with a fully charged battery still no joy.
>
> That won't neccessarily be any good, as the ignition system needs at least
> *some* voltage there to power the low tension (LT) circuit - just putting
a
> decent amount of power to the starter is only part of the picture.  Take
the
> old battery out, and properly replace it with a good one.  Then try.
>
> -- 
> Peter
>
> "You're not a real UKRCMer until you've owned a Rover 620ti."
>
> Will do,many thanks

In article <1r5b212n6li74$.1q4c37rrye44g.dlg@40tude.net>, Chris Street 
says...

> On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:35:25 +0100, Conor wrote:
> 
> > In article ,  
> > says...
> >> I hate to sound depressing but I had a 214 which blew a head gasket.
> >> Speaking to a mechanic, he said it was a common problem with those
> >> engines (he did one car 4 times!), not sure if the 620 is the same
> >> series engine but it was a 'K' year reg car I had.
> >> 
> > It isn't. They saw common sense and fitted a Honda unit.
> 
> K reg 214's were Japanese engines
> 

Err, the OP was on about 620s.

-- 
Conor

-You wanted an argument? Oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse. You want room 
K5, just along the corridor. Stupid git. (Monty Python)