I have an X reg scenic and the rear wiper is playing up.
Sometimes it works when you switch it on at the steering column stalk, other 
times it doesnt. Its also supposed to work when you put it in reverse, 
again, sometimes it does and sometimes it doesnt.
Sometimes it will even work when the stalk is positioned to off. It only 
does this if its been switched on sometime during that particular drive 
though. Sort of a delayed reaction.
What does everyone think it could be?
If its the relay then does anyone know exactly where it is and would any 
relay from the renault range work in it. I have yet to see a scenic in a 
scrap yard unfortunately.
Cheers,
Pete

Does it work when you switch on the rear screen washer, or is this 
intermittant too. If neither works it's likely to be the relay.  Don't know 
where it is on the scenic. If you get it working you should be able to hear 
the relay clicking as it turns on and off. You'll need to cross over the 
connection at the relay to ensure that the motor and wiring are ok. Check 
the wires where they go into the back door, several cars have problems here 
with wires breaking.

John.

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>I have an X reg scenic and the rear wiper is playing up.
> Sometimes it works when you switch it on at the steering column stalk, 
> other times it doesnt. Its also supposed to work when you put it in 
> reverse, again, sometimes it does and sometimes it doesnt.
> Sometimes it will even work when the stalk is positioned to off. It only 
> does this if its been switched on sometime during that particular drive 
> though. Sort of a delayed reaction.
> What does everyone think it could be?
> If its the relay then does anyone know exactly where it is and would any 
> relay from the renault range work in it. I have yet to see a scenic in a 
> scrap yard unfortunately.
> Cheers,
> Pete
> 

PeteZahut wrote:

> I have an X reg scenic and the rear wiper is playing up.
> Sometimes it works when you switch it on at the steering column stalk, other 
> times it doesnt. Its also supposed to work when you put it in reverse, 
> again, sometimes it does and sometimes it doesnt.
> Sometimes it will even work when the stalk is positioned to off. It only 
> does this if its been switched on sometime during that particular drive 
> though. Sort of a delayed reaction.
> What does everyone think it could be?
> If its the relay then does anyone know exactly where it is and would any 
> relay from the renault range work in it. I have yet to see a scenic in a 
> scrap yard unfortunately.
> Cheers,
> Pete 
> 
> 

Just a thought (I know nothing about Renaults...)

Have you tried checking the earth to the tailgate?, I know on the GFs 
Ford(ha) Ka - that struggled getting an earth through the hinges; ended 
up wiring a dedicated earth line between boot and body.

Could explain the intermittent behaviour, also, the "delayed" response 
could be explained if the wiper motor kicked in slightly to move the 
blade from normal, and when the earth is made then the blade completes 
the full cycle.

Probably not the issue, but an easy one to check (if you've a couple of 
metres of cable)

Mike

"John"  wrote in message 
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> Does it work when you switch on the rear screen washer, or is this 
> intermittant too. If neither works it's likely to be the relay.  Don't 
> know where it is on the scenic. If you get it working you should be able 
> to hear the relay clicking as it turns on and off. You'll need to cross 
> over the connection at the relay to ensure that the motor and wiring are 
> ok. Check the wires where they go into the back door, several cars have 
> problems here with wires breaking.
>


Thanks for the replies, i'll try and answer them all here.
Firstly, when i activate the washer, sometimes it works, sometimes it 
doesnt. Today I was driving, hadnt even touched the stalk and the back wiper 
activated even though the stalk was positioned to off.
I have managed to find out where the click comes from but its behind the 
dashboard and looks like the only way to get it is by taking the lot out. 
Noooooo.
What do you mean by cross over the connection at the realy to ensure the 
motor and wiring are ok?
The wires on the back door:- a while ago the car was involved in a rear end 
collision, i dont know if the panel was removed but I'll check the wires 
tomorrow and stick a temporary earth on it to see if that makes a 
difference.
Do you think that any relay for the renault range would work or are they 
likely to be different for each car? Also, how expensive are they?
Cheers
Pete