I have to get between Euston to Liverpool Street stations tomorrow and
on Friday evening and I'm after some advice from anyone who has done
this before!

I'll be travelling with a large rucksack and a holdall (3 week trip) so
I'm not sure if the tube will be a good idea with stairs/escalators and
I also have some consideration for other passengers.

If the weather's reasonable I'm quite happy to walk it as I have 2
hours to get there but I don't know where I'm going yet.  How far is it
and how long should it take?
Do the major stations let you take porters trolleys between the
stations?!

Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated :o)

peter

"naked_draughtsman"  wrote in message 
news:1122125963.785200.240270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>I have to get between Euston to Liverpool Street stations tomorrow and
> on Friday evening and I'm after some advice from anyone who has done
> this before!
>
> I'll be travelling with a large rucksack and a holdall (3 week trip) so
> I'm not sure if the tube will be a good idea with stairs/escalators and
> I also have some consideration for other passengers.
>
> If the weather's reasonable I'm quite happy to walk it as I have 2
> hours to get there but I don't know where I'm going yet.  How far is it
> and how long should it take?
> Do the major stations let you take porters trolleys between the
> stations?!
>
> Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated :o)


If the relevant Underground lines are running normally, then I'd say that 
the Circle line from Euston Square to Liverpool Street would be your best 
bet, with the Northern Line from Euston to Bank being a good substitute; in 
the latter case you'd have a walk of about half a mile from Bank to 
Liverpool Street along Threadneedle Street and Bishopsgate. Alternatively 
you could walk from Euston to Kings Cross Thameslink (about  mile), catch a 
Thameslink train to Farringdon (or Moorgate during the rush hour) and then 
walk from Farringdon or Moorgate to Liverpool Street (about 1 mile or  mile 
respectively).

To make life really easy, you might decide to treat yourself to a taxi. I'm 
not sure how much the fare would be since I've never actually used a London 
taxi.

If you walked the whole way, I think it might be about three miles along the 
A501 (Euston Road, Pentonville Road) and your arms might start to drop off 
if you've got a heavy holdall. But you should have no trouble doing the 
journey in two hours. I doubt whether luggage trolleys can be taken from one 
NR station to another through the street - shame, really.

I'm sure there are buses, but I've no idea how you'd find out routes and bus 
numbers.

Probably a good idea to print the relevant pages of Multimap at 1:10000 
scale so you can find your way around on foot if needed.

"naked_draughtsman"  wrote in message
news:1122125963.785200.240270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> I have to get between Euston to Liverpool Street stations tomorrow and
> on Friday evening and I'm after some advice from anyone who has done
> this before!
>
> I'll be travelling with a large rucksack and a holdall (3 week trip) so
> I'm not sure if the tube will be a good idea with stairs/escalators and
> I also have some consideration for other passengers.
>
> If the weather's reasonable I'm quite happy to walk it as I have 2
> hours to get there but I don't know where I'm going yet.  How far is it
> and how long should it take?
> Do the major stations let you take porters trolleys between the
> stations?!
>

It's getting on for 3 miles, and you're not supposed to take trolleys
between stations (though they do occasionally turn up in unlikely places
;-) ). Route is Euston Road to Kings Cross, Pentonville Road to Angel, City
Road to Moorgate then cut across to Liverpool Street. By tube the Met isn't
running beyond Moorgate, and probably your best route is Northern Line (City
branch) from Euston to Moorgate and walk the short distance from there.
Expect suspicious looks from other passengers if you take a rucksack on the
tube. If you're feeling affluent you might want to splash out for a cab.

Peter

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:52:43 +0000 (UTC), "Peter Masson" 

>It's getting on for 3 miles, and you're not supposed to take trolleys
>between stations (though they do occasionally turn up in unlikely places
>;-) ). Route is Euston Road to Kings Cross, Pentonville Road to Angel, City
>Road to Moorgate then cut across to Liverpool Street. By tube the Met isn't
>running beyond Moorgate, and probably your best route is Northern Line (City
>branch) from Euston to Moorgate and walk the short distance from there.
>Expect suspicious looks from other passengers if you take a rucksack on the
>tube. If you're feeling affluent you might want to splash out for a cab.
>
>Peter
>

Are there none of the good old fashioned London Busses?

Peter Masson wrote:

> "naked_draughtsman"  wrote in message
> news:1122125963.785200.240270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > I have to get between Euston to Liverpool Street stations tomorrow and
> > on Friday evening and I'm after some advice from anyone who has done
> > this before!
> >
> > I'll be travelling with a large rucksack and a holdall (3 week trip) so
> > I'm not sure if the tube will be a good idea with stairs/escalators and
> > I also have some consideration for other passengers.
> >
> > If the weather's reasonable I'm quite happy to walk it as I have 2
> > hours to get there but I don't know where I'm going yet.  How far is it
> > and how long should it take?
> > Do the major stations let you take porters trolleys between the
> > stations?!
> >
> It's getting on for 3 miles, and you're not supposed to take trolleys
> between stations (though they do occasionally turn up in unlikely places
> ;-) ). Route is Euston Road to Kings Cross, Pentonville Road to Angel, City
> Road to Moorgate then cut across to Liverpool Street. By tube the Met isn't
> running beyond Moorgate, and probably your best route is Northern Line (City
> branch) from Euston to Moorgate and walk the short distance from there.
> Expect suspicious looks from other passengers if you take a rucksack on the
> tube. If you're feeling affluent you might want to splash out for a cab.
>
> Peter


Or you could walk over to Euston Square underground station from Euston
mainline (a little further west along the Euston Road) and go by the
Metropolitan line to Moorgate (as it's not running any further). The
Met is a sub-surface line as opposed to a deep tube line, so there's
less distance to descend and ascend to get to and from the platform,
and the carriages are larger. Then walk the half mile to Liverpool
Street.

Or get a 205 bus - destination Mile End gate, remembering to buy your
ticket before you board from the roadside machine.

The excellent TfL Journey Planner will give you routes on demand, and
if you click on 'more search options' on the front page you can specify
which modes you wish to exclude from your search (bus, tube etc).

http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/

With regards to backpacks, people are understandably tetchy but I've
seen loads of passengers still carrying bags, including back-packs,
with them on the tube. The bomb backpacks were not, by all accounts,
particularly large, and in any event another type of bag could be used
in the future. I wouldn't worry about any potential suspicious looks,
as you'd not be doing anything wrong.

Martin WY wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:52:43 +0000 (UTC), "Peter Masson"
>> It's getting on for 3 miles, and you're not supposed to take
>> trolleys between stations (though they do occasionally turn up in
>> unlikely places ;-) ). Route is Euston Road to Kings Cross,
>> Pentonville Road to Angel, City Road to Moorgate then cut across
>> to Liverpool Street. By tube the Met isn't running beyond
>> Moorgate, and probably your best route is Northern Line (City
>> branch) from Euston to Moorgate and walk the short distance from
>> there. Expect suspicious looks from other passengers if you take a
>> rucksack on the tube. If you're feeling affluent you might want to
>> splash out for a cab.
>>
>> Peter
>>
> Are there none of the good old fashioned London Busses?


But this is uk.railway!  :-)

Actually, there is a direct bus route, 205, which runs every 10 minutes
(12 mins after 19:00) with a timetabled journey time of about 20
minutes.
Timetable at http://www.busmap.org/tt4/205.pdf

-- 
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

naked_draughtsman wrote:

> 
> I have to get between Euston to Liverpool Street stations tomorrow and
> on Friday evening and I'm after some advice from anyone who has done
> this before!
> 
> I'll be travelling with a large rucksack and a holdall (3 week trip) so
> I'm not sure if the tube will be a good idea with stairs/escalators and
> I also have some consideration for other passengers.


Allow enough time to be searched by the Police at the atations, should
they choose to stop you. I passed through London Bridge station today;
there were about a dozen police officers there and at least one person's
baggage was being searched.

-- 
John Ray, London UK.

"naked_draughtsman"  wrote in message 
news:1122125963.785200.240270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>I have to get between Euston to Liverpool Street stations tomorrow and
> on Friday evening and I'm after some advice from anyone who has done
> this before!
>
> I'll be travelling with a large rucksack and a holdall (3 week trip) so
> I'm not sure if the tube will be a good idea with stairs/escalators and
> I also have some consideration for other passengers.
>
> If the weather's reasonable I'm quite happy to walk it as I have 2
> hours to get there but I don't know where I'm going yet.  How far is it
> and how long should it take?
> Do the major stations let you take porters trolleys between the
> stations?!
>
> Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated :o)
>
> peter



Bus looks favourite. However there is something going on which affects bus 
route 205 from Euston to Kings Cross next week. Best bet, walk to Kings 
Cross Station (10 mins approx), bus stop E (buy a ticket from the machine 
adjacent to the stop 1.00) and catch a 214 or 205 direct to Liverpool 
Street Bus Station.

Ivor

Mizter T wrote:

> Or you could walk over to Euston Square underground station from Euston
> mainline (a little further west along the Euston Road) and go by the
> Metropolitan line to Moorgate (as it's not running any further). The
> Met is a sub-surface line as opposed to a deep tube line, so there's
> less distance to descend and ascend to get to and from the platform,
> and the carriages are larger. Then walk the half mile to Liverpool
> Street.
>


Is the Metropolitan line quieter than usual then due to the shorter
running service? (Less stairs=much better!)

How much busier would it be on a Friday afternoon at about 3pm? I don't
mind having to stand with my bags by the doors but if it's busy there
probably wouldn't be any room to get on!

"Ivor Sleeper"  wrote in message 
news:dbtrpj$5j4$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...

>
> "naked_draughtsman"  wrote in message 
> news:1122125963.785200.240270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>I have to get between Euston to Liverpool Street stations tomorrow 
>>and
>> on Friday evening and I'm after some advice from anyone who has 
>> done
>> this before!
>>
>> I'll be travelling with a large rucksack and a holdall (3 week 
>> trip) so
>> I'm not sure if the tube will be a good idea with stairs/escalators 
>> and
>> I also have some consideration for other passengers.
>>
>> If the weather's reasonable I'm quite happy to walk it as I have 2
>> hours to get there but I don't know where I'm going yet.  How far 
>> is it
>> and how long should it take?
>> Do the major stations let you take porters trolleys between the
>> stations?!
>>
>> Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated :o)
>>
>> peter
>
>
> Bus looks favourite. However there is something going on which 
> affects bus route 205 from Euston to Kings Cross next week. Best 
> bet, walk to Kings Cross Station (10 mins approx), bus stop E (buy a 
> ticket from the machine adjacent to the stop 1.00) and catch a 214 
> or 205 direct to Liverpool Street Bus Station.
>


Bus fares are now 1.20, not 1.

naked_draughtsman wrote:

> Mizter T wrote:
> > Or you could walk over to Euston Square underground station from Euston
> > mainline (a little further west along the Euston Road) and go by the
> > Metropolitan line to Moorgate (as it's not running any further). The
> > Met is a sub-surface line as opposed to a deep tube line, so there's
> > less distance to descend and ascend to get to and from the platform,
> > and the carriages are larger. Then walk the half mile to Liverpool
> > Street.
> >
>
> Is the Metropolitan line quieter than usual then due to the shorter
> running service? (Less stairs=much better!)
>
> How much busier would it be on a Friday afternoon at about 3pm? I don't
> mind having to stand with my bags by the doors but if it's busy there
> probably wouldn't be any room to get on!


I haven't been on the Met enough to say first hand how busy it it. I
doubt it's quieter than normal though.

Travelling at around 3pm on Friday will mean you avoid the heaviest
part of the rush hour, when things can get packed.

The fewer stairs and larger carriages of the Met would mean that would
be my choice if I was to take the Underground with heavy bags.

Thanks everyone,  this is just the sort of info I was after.  I think
I'll give the tube a go!

On 23 Jul 2005 10:43:37 -0700 someone who may be "naked_draughtsman"
 wrote this:-


>Thanks everyone,  this is just the sort of info I was after.  I think
>I'll give the tube a go!


I hope you are not of "Islamic" appearance.


-- 
 David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E
 I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
 prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000.

David Hansen wrote:

> On 23 Jul 2005 10:43:37 -0700 someone who may be "naked_draughtsman"
>  wrote this:-
>
> >Thanks everyone,  this is just the sort of info I was after.  I think
> >I'll give the tube a go!
>
> I hope you are not of "Islamic" appearance.


Don't listen. I have a beard and never wear a tie, and weeks go by
without anyone shooting at me.

Mizter T  wrote:

> 
> Travelling at around 3pm on Friday will mean you avoid the heaviest
> part of the rush hour, when things can get packed.


The last few times I've been in London on Fridays a sort of extended
POETS rush-hour seems to start at about 3pm.

My inclination would be to take the bus, given the uncertainty (read:
risk of being gunned down by the SAS pretending to be police) on the
Underground at the moment.

pete
-- 
pete@fenelon.com "There's no room for enigmas in built-up areas" - HMHB

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005, naked_draughtsman wrote:


> I have to get between Euston to Liverpool Street stations tomorrow 
> and on Friday evening and I'm after some advice from anyone who has 
> done this before!


Hello,  this comes a bit late, but the point may be worth making 
anyway...

If you're not accustomed to walking in a country where we drive on the 
left, you'll need to keep your wits about you.

In London you'll find different one-way variations, and in one-way 
streets you will often find "LOOK LEFT" or "LOOK RIGHT" on the highway 
as the case may be.  It's when there isn't such a warning that it's 
too easy to forget, if one is programmed to right-hand traffic.

apologies if this seems too obvious.

naked_draughtsman wrote:

> I have to get between Euston to Liverpool Street stations tomorrow and
> on Friday evening and I'm after some advice from anyone who has done
> this before!
> 
> I'll be travelling with a large rucksack and a holdall (3 week trip) so
> I'm not sure if the tube will be a good idea with stairs/escalators and
> I also have some consideration for other passengers.
> 


It's a long way to walk - I've tried it.

I'd recommend using The Underground for cross London journeys - as does 
the National Rail Enquiries journey planner. Tickets for cross London 
journeys include use of the tube between stations without extra charge.

Philip.

Mizter T  wrote:


>
> The excellent TfL Journey Planner will give you routes on demand, and
> if you click on 'more search options' on the front page you can specify
> which modes you wish to exclude from your search (bus, tube etc).
> 
> http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/


Is the planner updated with the daily changes ???

Is there a version of the famous underground plan with the actual
situation ?

Theo
-- 
From the heath in the Nord of Belgium

>It's getting on for 3 miles, and you're not supposed to take trolleys
>between stations (though they do occasionally turn up in unlikely places
>;-) ). Route is Euston Road to Kings Cross, Pentonville Road to Angel, City
>Road to Moorgate then cut across to Liverpool Street. By tube the Met isn't
>running beyond Moorgate, and probably your best route is Northern Line (City
>branch) from Euston to Moorgate and walk the short distance from there.
>Expect suspicious looks from other passengers if you take a rucksack on the
>tube. If you're feeling affluent you might want to splash out for a cab.



I'm pretty sure that when people finally land on Mars, they'll find a
trolley saying "Not to be removed from Liverpool Street".

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:52:43 +0000 (UTC), Peter Masson wrote:


> It's getting on for 3 miles, and you're not supposed to take trolleys
> between stations (though they do occasionally turn up in unlikely places
> ;-) )


Indeed they do: http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p11495977.html

-- 
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9683687.html
(53861 (Class 116) at Lichfield City, 13 Jun 1985)

Alan J. Flavell wrote:

> If you're not accustomed to walking in a country where we drive on the
> left, you'll need to keep your wits about you.


We drive on the left in Wales but fully intend to keep my wits about
me!


> In London you'll find different one-way variations, and in one-way
> streets you will often find "LOOK LEFT" or "LOOK RIGHT" on the highway
> as the case may be.


Ah, that may catch me out.  We're taught to look both ways, even in one
way streets and when the green man is showing on the pedestrian
crossing :-D

Sorry, late night sarcasm has started to kick in!

.
222 120742  article retrieved - body follows


Alan J. Flavell wrote:

> If you're not accustomed to walking in a country where we drive on the
> left, you'll need to keep your wits about you.


We drive on the left in Wales but fully intend to keep my wits about
me!


> In London you'll find different one-way variations, and in one-way
> streets you will often find "LOOK LEFT" or "LOOK RIGHT" on the highway
> as the case may be.


Ah, that may catch me out.  We're taught to look both ways, even in one
way streets and when the green man is showing on the pedestrian
crossing :-D

Sorry, late night sarcasm has started to kick in!

Theo van Riet wrote:

> Mizter T  wrote:
>
>>
>> The excellent TfL Journey Planner will give you routes on demand,
>> and if you click on 'more search options' on the front page you
>> can specify which modes you wish to exclude from your search (bus,
>> tube etc).
>>
>> http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/
>
> Is the planner updated with the daily changes ???


Yes.  For example, for a tube route from Euston to Liverpool Street, it
will route you via the Northern Line to Tottenham Court Road, then the
Central Line to Liverpool Street, because it knows that you can't reach
Liverpool Street on the Circle Line at present.


> Is there a version of the famous underground plan with the actual
> situation ?


No. There was an unofficial one at
http://www.antipope.org/feorag/blogpix/tube-21-07-05.jpg, but it hasn't
been updated.

-- 
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

This isn't a totally serious suggestion, but if you want to avoid the
tube[1] it is possible.

If your train calls at Watford Jn (or Harrow & Wealdstone), you could
take Silverlink Metro from one of those stations to Willesden Jn, then
on to Stratford, many trains pick up from there (even half the
loco-hauled expresses to Norwich these days).

It would take a while though. It might be easier in terms of luggage,
but you do have stairs at Willesden Jn and Stratford to negotiate, but
those stations might have lifts, I think Stratford must have as the low
level platforms are on the same level as the Jubilee and that will have
lifts.

But the above is only if you have a *lot* of time to kill, and if the
trains you're getting do call at Watford and also Stratford.

[1] Yes I know Euston Square-Liverpool St isn't tube, but the Met is
only running to Moorgate currently.

On 23 Jul 2005 18:01:31 -0700, "Yorkie"  wrote:


>This isn't a totally serious suggestion, but if you want to avoid the
>tube[1] it is possible.
>
>If your train calls at Watford Jn (or Harrow & Wealdstone), you could
>take Silverlink Metro from one of those stations to Willesden Jn, then
>on to Stratford, many trains pick up from there (even half the
>loco-hauled expresses to Norwich these days).
>
>It would take a while though. It might be easier in terms of luggage,
>but you do have stairs at Willesden Jn and Stratford to negotiate, but
>those stations might have lifts, I think Stratford must have as the low
>level platforms are on the same level as the Jubilee and that will have
>lifts.


I'm pretty sure Willesden Jn doesn't have lifts. The stairs (and
overcrowding) are probably comparable to the Met route.

Interesting idea though.

[Waits for someone to come up with a convoluted step-free route that
doesn't involve buses or walks]

"Theo van Riet"  wrote

>
> Is there a version of the famous underground plan with the actual
> situation ?
>

Have a look at
http://map.tfl.gov.uk/realtime.asp

Peter

In message  on Sun, 24 Jul 2005
02:35:13 +0100 in uk.railway, asdf <invalid@invalid.invalid> tapped out on the
keyboard:


> 
> [Waits for someone to come up with a convoluted step-free route that
> doesn't involve buses or walks]


Train Liverpool Street to Cambridge, then Cambridge to King's Cross.  Short walk
to Euston (sorry about the walk).

--
John Youles   Norwich   England   UK

No good to OP but the Metropolitan line is expected to reopen tomorrow,
Monday, through to Aldgate. Should be OK for his return journey

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:16:15 GMT, Chris Tolley 
wrote:


>On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:52:43 +0000 (UTC), Peter Masson wrote:
>
>> It's getting on for 3 miles, and you're not supposed to take trolleys
>> between stations (though they do occasionally turn up in unlikely places
>> ;-) )
>
>Indeed they do: http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p11495977.html


Hmmm. No points for that one, they're still in the same country!

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:52:45 +0100, Charles Ellson
 wrote:


>On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:16:15 GMT, Chris Tolley 
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:52:43 +0000 (UTC), Peter Masson wrote:
>>
>>> It's getting on for 3 miles, and you're not supposed to take trolleys
>>> between stations (though they do occasionally turn up in unlikely places
>>> ;-) )
>>
>>Indeed they do: http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p11495977.html
>
>Hmmm. No points for that one, they're still in the same country!


I shall enter a first bid of:-
<http://www.faktaomfartyg.com/express_milos_1969_vr.htm>
a Holyhead trolley now cruising the Aegean (search in the page for
"Holyhead" or "luggage trolley"), although ISTR the Scotsman
publishing a photograph of one sighted in Vladivostok or somewhere in
that direction.

On 23 Jul 2005 06:39:23 -0700, "naked_draughtsman"
 wrote:


>I'll be travelling with a large rucksack and a holdall (3 week trip) so
>I'm not sure if the tube will be a good idea with stairs/escalators and
>I also have some consideration for other passengers.


The 205 bus goes from Euston bus station (right outside the station)
to Liverpool Street.  Perfect.

Neil

-- 
Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK
When replying please use neil at the above domain
'wensleydale' is a spam trap and is not read.

In article ,
MIG  wrote:


>I'm pretty sure that when people finally land on Mars, they'll find a
>trolley saying "Not to be removed from Liverpool Street".


No - it'll say Harwich Parkeston Quay !

Nick
-- 
http://www.leverton.org/                      ... So express yourself

In article <y3yh3jj4o82s$.t5vklnc6uiat$.dlg@40tude.net>,
Chris Tolley   wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:52:43 +0000 (UTC), Peter Masson wrote:
>
>> It's getting on for 3 miles, and you're not supposed to take trolleys
>> between stations (though they do occasionally turn up in unlikely places
>> ;-) )
>
>Indeed they do: http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p11495977.html


Drat you beat me to it !  It's true though ...

Nick
-- 
http://www.leverton.org/                      ... So express yourself

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005, naked_draughtsman wrote:


> Alan J. Flavell wrote:
> > If you're not accustomed to walking in a country where we drive on the
> > left, you'll need to keep your wits about you.
> 
> We drive on the left in Wales but fully intend to keep my wits about
> me!


I don't know quite where I got the idea you were not from the UK...

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:24:52 +0100, Charles Ellson wrote:


> I shall enter a first bid of:-
> <http://www.faktaomfartyg.com/express_milos_1969_vr.htm>
> a Holyhead trolley now cruising the Aegean (search in the page for
> "Holyhead" or "luggage trolley")


Now that's impressive. I sense a holiday-season competition coming on.


-- 
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9633097.html
(55 009 at London Kings Cross, 1979)

There was the stationlink bus SL1 & SL2, one going clockwise and the
other anti-clockwise around the London treminii.  The fare was £1 when
I last done it a couple of years back.  The busses were invariably the
low floor type, but I did once experience a Merc with a tail lift for
wheelchair access.

"Richard J."  wrote in message 
news:2qzEe.75974$G8.41076@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

> Theo van Riet wrote:
>> Mizter T  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The excellent TfL Journey Planner will give you routes on demand,
>>> and if you click on 'more search options' on the front page you
>>> can specify which modes you wish to exclude from your search (bus,
>>> tube etc).
>>>
>>> http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/

>> Is there a version of the famous underground plan with the actual
>> situation ?

> No. There was an unofficial one at
> http://www.antipope.org/feorag/blogpix/tube-21-07-05.jpg, but it hasn't
> been updated.


Yes, there is.

http://map.tfl.gov.uk/realtime.asp
-- 
David Biddulph

On 25 Jul 2005 10:39:47 -0700, "M.Mynard@gmail.com"
 wrote:


>There was the stationlink bus SL1 & SL2, one going clockwise and the
>other anti-clockwise around the London treminii.  The fare was =A31 when
>I last done it a couple of years back.  The busses were invariably the
>low floor type, but I did once experience a Merc with a tail lift for
>wheelchair access.


Doesn't exist any more.  The far superior 205 covers the northern part
of it (Paddington to Liverpool St or thereabouts) every 10 minutes
instead of hourly, but the bottom bit is now unserved (used to be a
route 705 but it has been withdrawn because hardly anyone used it).

Neil

-- 
Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK
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"David Biddulph"  wrote in message 
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> "Richard J."  wrote in message 
> news:2qzEe.75974$G8.41076@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> Theo van Riet wrote:
>>> Mizter T  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The excellent TfL Journey Planner will give you routes on demand,
>>>> and if you click on 'more search options' on the front page you
>>>> can specify which modes you wish to exclude from your search 
>>>> (bus,
>>>> tube etc).
>>>>
>>>> http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/
>
>>> Is there a version of the famous underground plan with the actual
>>> situation ?
>
>> No. There was an unofficial one at
>> http://www.antipope.org/feorag/blogpix/tube-21-07-05.jpg, but it 
>> hasn't
>> been updated.
>
> Yes, there is.
>
> http://map.tfl.gov.uk/realtime.asp
>


Although what you see is the "inverse" of what people seem to be 
asking for. ie it highlights the "problem" lines, rather than just 
showing what is open.

Also, it seems to have a problem with the Hammersmith and City line. 
Despite only "not running" between Paddington and Baker Street, it 
shows the affected section as Goldhawk Road to Baker Street. The other 
lines (eg District and Piccadilly closed sections) are represented 
correctly, so why not the H&C ?