DAK if SPORTIS can handle a transaction partly paid by travel vouchers
and partly credit card? The conductor on the train I used a week or so
back didn't know how to do it and wasn't sure if it was possible. I
ended up paying cash (and the voucher)

It's the same as with PERTIS, what I do is give cash for the voucher
and then debit card for full ticket price. Then on shift sheet pay in
vouchers as 'other credits', I would imagine the conductor was new to
SPORTIS.

On 22 Jul 2005 02:34:02 -0700, dtren@my-deja.com wrote in
, seen in
uk.railway:


> DAK if SPORTIS can handle a transaction partly paid by travel vouchers
> and partly credit card? The conductor on the train I used a week or so
> back didn't know how to do it and wasn't sure if it was possible. I
> ended up paying cash (and the voucher)


Back in the dark ages when I was a guard, we used to "buy" the
vouchers off the pax for their cash value and charge the full value of
the ticket to the card, as SPORTIS can't handle multiple payment
methods for one ticket.

Whilst I think that was never an official policy, it was always
permitted by TPTB.

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:38:13 +0100, Ross 
wrote:


>On 22 Jul 2005 02:34:02 -0700, dtren@my-deja.com wrote in
>, seen in
>uk.railway:
>
>> DAK if SPORTIS can handle a transaction partly paid by travel vouchers
>> and partly credit card? The conductor on the train I used a week or so
>> back didn't know how to do it and wasn't sure if it was possible. I
>> ended up paying cash (and the voucher)
>
>Back in the dark ages when I was a guard, we used to "buy" the
>vouchers off the pax for their cash value and charge the full value of
>the ticket to the card, as SPORTIS can't handle multiple payment
>methods for one ticket.
>
>Whilst I think that was never an official policy, it was always
>permitted by TPTB.

It still is on Northern,   I have a surplus of about 270 of them at
the moment , and give them out to friends or use some myself, and they
always change them for cash, then charge the correct price to balance
their books for booking off

Martin WY wrote:


>>Back in the dark ages when I was a guard, we used to "buy" the
>>vouchers off the pax for their cash value and charge the full value of
>>the ticket to the card, as SPORTIS can't handle multiple payment
>>methods for one ticket.
>>
>>Whilst I think that was never an official policy, it was always
>>permitted by TPTB.

> It still is on Northern,   I have a surplus of about 270 of them at
> the moment , and give them out to friends or use some myself, and they
> always change them for cash, then charge the correct price to balance
> their books for booking off


Like tickets, those vouchers are NOT TRANSFERABLE, and I'm sure certain
participants in this newsgroup will be eager to point out that you ought to
be prosecuted for giving them away.

;-)

vouchers are treated as cash, therefore it is not possible to combine 
payment with them.
it is also not permitted to exchange cash for them, as the vouchers need to 
have the ticket number issued written on the back along with the passengers 
name and journey details.
Timbo

"Adam Funk"  wrote in message 
news:dbqu1l$s79$2@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk...

> Martin WY wrote:
>
>>>Back in the dark ages when I was a guard, we used to "buy" the
>>>vouchers off the pax for their cash value and charge the full value of
>>>the ticket to the card, as SPORTIS can't handle multiple payment
>>>methods for one ticket.
>>>
>>>Whilst I think that was never an official policy, it was always
>>>permitted by TPTB.
>
>> It still is on Northern,   I have a surplus of about 270 of them at
>> the moment , and give them out to friends or use some myself, and they
>> always change them for cash, then charge the correct price to balance
>> their books for booking off
>
> Like tickets, those vouchers are NOT TRANSFERABLE, and I'm sure certain
> participants in this newsgroup will be eager to point out that you ought 
> to
> be prosecuted for giving them away.
>
> ;-)
>
> 

tim wrote:


> vouchers are treated as cash, therefore it is not possible to combine
> payment with them.


I'm not sure what you mean by that.  The National Conditions refer to
"compensation in the form of travel vouchers which may be exchanged or used
in part payment for tickets for any rail journey on the services of the
Train Companies."

A few times within the space of a month a year or two ago, I had to dispute
with conductors who thought they didn't have to give change from a 5 note
and a 5 voucher for a 9 ticket (for example).  The RPC confirmed that
customers are entitled to change in such situations.


> it is also not permitted to exchange cash for them, as the vouchers need
> to have the ticket number issued written on the back along with the
> passengers name and journey details.


True, although not all staff are bothered about having customers fill that
information in, and I'd be very surprised if anyone could be bothered to
verify later that the passenger matches the complainant to whom the
vouchers were issued.

Martin WY wrote:

[vouchers]


> I have a surplus of about 270 of them at
> the moment 


Really? You must have been on a lot of delayed trains.

Charlie

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:03:54 +0100, Charlie Hulme
 wrote:


>Martin WY wrote:
>
>[vouchers]
>
>> I have a surplus of about 270 of them at
>> the moment 
>
>Really? You must have been on a lot of delayed trains.
>
>Charlie

No Charlie,   in respect of RPI assistance and Mystery Shopper on
Calderdale, Airdale, Wharfdale, Settle & Carlisle lines for three
months last year. Ive given over 100 to friends already

>

Martin WY wrote:


> No Charlie,   in respect of RPI assistance and Mystery Shopper on
> Calderdale, Airdale, Wharfdale, Settle & Carlisle lines for three
> months last year. Ive given over 100 to friends already


Mystery Shopper?

Is that someone who 'shops' rail staff who don't do their job
properly? ;-)

Is income tax payable on these vouchers?

Charlie

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:06:00 GMT, Charlie Hulme
 wrote:


>Martin WY wrote:
>
>> No Charlie,   in respect of RPI assistance and Mystery Shopper on
>> Calderdale, Airdale, Wharfdale, Settle & Carlisle lines for three
>> months last year. Ive given over 100 to friends already
>
>Mystery Shopper?

Yes, we are given a long list of journey scenarios with the correct
routing and fare.   We have to watch them greet and meet, (smile be
happy)  (one I termed the Bat out of Hell), but so many , were so
pleasant, well dressed, polite, and spent time looking up the fares
and routes and 90% got them right too.    



>Is that someone who 'shops' rail staff who don't do their job
>properly?

Yes can be and have done many times, especially when I see them being
off handed or impolite to customers at the window.

>Is income tax payable on these vouchers?

NO we are not employed by the company in any way whatever.

>Charlie