While channel surfing between the cricket and Sky News coverage of the 
latest incidents in London, I saw something which intrigued me. One of 
the helicopter shots was of what appeared to be an abandoned elevated 
railway. It looked like the tracks had been removed long ago. Which line 
was this? I'm amazed that such real estate could go unused so close to 
central London.

Cheers
David

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:30:20 +1000, David Bromage wrote:


> While channel surfing between the cricket and Sky News coverage of the 
> latest incidents in London, I saw something which intrigued me. One of 
> the helicopter shots was of what appeared to be an abandoned elevated 
> railway. It looked like the tracks had been removed long ago. Which line 
> was this? I'm amazed that such real estate could go unused so close to 
> central London.


I saw that as well and was wondering what it was!  It looked very wide.

Mike K
Pembs

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:30:20 +1000, David Bromage wrote:


> While channel surfing between the cricket and Sky News coverage of the 
> latest incidents in London, I saw something which intrigued me. One of 
> the helicopter shots was of what appeared to be an abandoned elevated 
> railway. It looked like the tracks had been removed long ago. Which line 
> was this? I'm amazed that such real estate could go unused so close to 
> central London.


There are quite a few stretches of abandoned trackbed in London, and
some of them are indeed elevated. If it was connected with the events in
London, then it could have been something in the Shepherds Bush area.
Have a look at: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cj.tolley/rjd/rjd-039.htm
and see if it was anything on there, like the blue line.
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:30:20 +1000, David Bromage
 wrote:


>While channel surfing between the cricket and Sky News coverage of the 
>latest incidents in London, I saw something which intrigued me. One of 
>the helicopter shots was of what appeared to be an abandoned elevated 
>railway. It looked like the tracks had been removed long ago. Which line 
>was this? I'm amazed that such real estate could go unused so close to 
>central London.


It could well be the line out of Broad Street, which is near the bus
that was targetted.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:06:48 GMT someone who may be Chris Tolley
 wrote this:-


>There are quite a few stretches of abandoned trackbed in London, and
>some of them are indeed elevated. If it was connected with the events in
>London, then it could have been something in the Shepherds Bush area.


Most likely the Grove Road connection from the District Line to
Kensington Olympia and the Hammersmith & City Line (using modern
names, it was an LSWR line).


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asdf wrote:


> On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:30:20 +1000, David Bromage
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>>While channel surfing between the cricket and Sky News coverage of the 
>>latest incidents in London, I saw something which intrigued me. One of 
>>the helicopter shots was of what appeared to be an abandoned elevated 
>>railway. It looked like the tracks had been removed long ago. Which line 
>>was this? I'm amazed that such real estate could go unused so close to 
>>central London.
> 
> 
> It could well be the line out of Broad Street, which is near the bus
> that was targetted.


Yes, if it was the footage I saw, it was the bridge carrying the line 
over Old Street / Hackney Road (near the white church whose name escapes 
me). To be used for the ELL extension to Dalston.

matt wrote:

>
> Yes, if it was the footage I saw, it was the bridge carrying the line
> over Old Street / Hackney Road (near the white church whose name escapes
> me). To be used for the ELL extension to Dalston.


Just known by all (including the nos. 35 and 47 buses) as Shoreditch
Church, although I think it's actually St Leonard's.

Ken

matt wrote:


>> It could well be the line out of Broad Street, which is near the bus
>> that was targetted.
> 
> Yes, if it was the footage I saw, it was the bridge carrying the line 
> over Old Street / Hackney Road (near the white church whose name escapes 
> me). To be used for the ELL extension to Dalston.


Here?

http://www.google.co.uk/maps?ll=51.527349,-0.077494&spn=0.007124,0.010131&t=k&hl=en

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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:59:38 UTC, Jonathan Stott  
wrote:

: matt wrote:
: 
: >> It could well be the line out of Broad Street, which is near the bus
: >> that was targetted.
: > 
: > Yes, if it was the footage I saw, it was the bridge carrying the line 
: > over Old Street / Hackney Road (near the white church whose name escapes 
: > me). To be used for the ELL extension to Dalston.
: 
: Here?
: 
: http://www.google.co.uk/maps?ll=51.527349,-0.077494&spn=0.007124,0.010131&t=k&hl=en

Is that a disused station, with island platform, spang in the middle?

Ian

>: >> It could well be the line out of Broad Street, which is near the bus
>: >> that was targetted.
>: > 
>: > Yes, if it was the footage I saw, it was the bridge carrying the line 
>: > over Old Street / Hackney Road (near the white church whose name escapes 
>: > me). To be used for the ELL extension to Dalston.
>: 
>: Here?
>: 
>: http://www.google.co.uk/maps?ll=51.527349,-0.077494&spn=0.007124,0.010131&t=k&hl=en
>
>Is that a disused station, with island platform, spang in the middle?


Yes, that is the former Shoreditch station. For on-site photos see:
http://www.loveplums.co.uk/Tube/BroadSt1.html

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:27:04 UTC, asdf <invalid@invalid.invalid> 
wrote:

: >Is that a disused station, with island platform, spang in the middle?
: 
: Yes, that is the former Shoreditch station. For on-site photos see:
: http://www.loveplums.co.uk/Tube/BroadSt1.html

Ta very much,

Ian

In message <itpq77v6ij3c$.hd4uwsgh0zck.dlg@40tude.net>
          Chris Tolley  wrote:

[snip]

> There are quite a few stretches of abandoned trackbed in London, and
> some of them are indeed elevated. If it was connected with the events in
> London, then it could have been something in the Shepherds Bush area.
> Have a look at: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cj.tolley/rjd/rjd-039.htm
> and see if it was anything on there, like the blue line.


IIRC it was in the Oval area, the helo was stooging around south London and
the Isle of Dogs, wasn't allowed over central London for obvious reasons

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That looks a lot like it. Even if part of it will be used for the ELL 
extension, I'm surprised it's remained intact for the best part of 20 
years. I'd have thought the land would be worth a fortune.

Cheers
Dvaid

David Bromage wrote:

> That looks a lot like it. Even if part of it will be used for the ELL
> extension, I'm surprised it's remained intact for the best part of 20
> years. I'd have thought the land would be worth a fortune.
>
> Cheers
> Dvaid


Thankfully it would seem there are a few people in the planning game
who realise the benefit of safeguarding infrastructure and land for
future use.

I think the extended East London Line will be very useful and popular,
providing a new north - south link avoiding central London.

More information at:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/rail/initiatives/ell-introduction.shtml