Surely, there be more railway things happening in the U.K.
or have loads of you migrated to other newsgroups?

wrote in message 
news:1121964194.011011.70030@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

> Surely, there be more railway things happening in the U.K.
> or have loads of you migrated to other newsgroups?
>

....too many resident lurkers, who see fit to flame anyone who dares to post 
anything- just kills any group...
(retires to bomb proof shelter...)

On 21 Jul 2005 09:43:14 -0700, JOHNGREATWESTERN@AOL.COM wrote:


>Surely, there be more railway things happening in the U.K.
>or have loads of you migrated to other newsgroups?


300 messages in the last 24 hours, are you missing something?
G

In article , George
 writes

>On 21 Jul 2005 09:43:14 -0700, JOHNGREATWESTERN@AOL.COM wrote:
>
>>Surely, there be more railway things happening in the U.K.
>>or have loads of you migrated to other newsgroups?
>
>300 messages in the last 24 hours, are you missing something?
>G
>

Seems pretty active to me - not always topics I am interested in, but it
is a broad scope.

What would you like to talk about - post something, you are bound to get
a reply or two.
-- 
John Alexander, <><

Remove NOSPAM if replying by e-mail

John wrote:


> What would you like to talk about - post something, you are bound
> to get a reply or two.


If in doubt, just repeat something you just heard on the news, that
always seems to attract a lot of attention!

-- 
Chris Game

"Never memorize something that you can look up."
 -- Albert Einstein

On 21 Jul 2005 09:43:14 -0700, JOHNGREATWESTERN@AOL.COM wrote:


>Surely, there be more railway things happening in the U.K.
>or have loads of you migrated to other newsgroups?


All Usenet is dying.

It's not something ISPs push, and some don't even have servers. Half
of those who ARE here believe it's called 'Google Groups'.

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:06:14 GMT, "turbo" 
wrote:


>
> wrote in message 
>news:1121964194.011011.70030@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> Surely, there be more railway things happening in the U.K.
>> or have loads of you migrated to other newsgroups?
>>
>...too many resident lurkers, who see fit to flame anyone who dares to post 
>anything- just kills any group...
>(retires to bomb proof shelter...) 
>

Well, come on out now, it's a grand day and you are absolutely right.
It's just a pity I missed your post last night.
It is upsetting that there are so many who come here and belittle the
staff just trying to do their bit.
G

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:45:56 +0100, Ken  wrote:


>On 21 Jul 2005 09:43:14 -0700, JOHNGREATWESTERN@AOL.COM wrote:
>
>>Surely, there be more railway things happening in the U.K.
>>or have loads of you migrated to other newsgroups?
>
>All Usenet is dying.
>
>It's not something ISPs push, and some don't even have servers. Half
>of those who ARE here believe it's called 'Google Groups'.


I hope not.  Vastly more interesting than most websites, and certainly
less predictable!  But your ISP is not needed anyway except as a
gateway to a specialist site, such as Giganews and many others.

Guy Gorton

> >Surely, there be more railway things happening in the U.K.
> >or have loads of you migrated to other newsgroups?
> 
> All Usenet is dying.
> 
> It's not something ISPs push, and some don't even have servers. Half
> of those who ARE here believe it's called 'Google Groups'.


Usenet (indeed the internet) was injured when BillG made access
possible for the non-technical.  Then AOL lowered the standards even
further, and now (in the US, at least) WebTV makes it possible for the
barely literate.

It's dying because every fool is allowed to use it now.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:52:51 +0100, Guy Gorton
 wrote:


>On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:45:56 +0100, Ken  wrote:
>
>>On 21 Jul 2005 09:43:14 -0700, JOHNGREATWESTERN@AOL.COM wrote:
>>
>>>Surely, there be more railway things happening in the U.K.
>>>or have loads of you migrated to other newsgroups?
>>
>>All Usenet is dying.
>>
>>It's not something ISPs push, and some don't even have servers. Half
>>of those who ARE here believe it's called 'Google Groups'.
>
>I hope not.  Vastly more interesting than most websites, and certainly
>less predictable!  But your ISP is not needed anyway except as a
>gateway to a specialist site, such as Giganews and many others.
>
>Guy Gorton

For years many have said,  oh oh,,, its holiday season,  the rubbish
press are looking for something to publish.  Alas unfortunately that
does not apply currently.   But as far as railways go,  a lot of
people on here lurking in the background do go on holiday.
You must remember, an awful lot of TOC, FrOC and N R personnell do
read these groups as well as their management, but all our friend Nev
Arthur will tell you , just how easily it is to get a severe repremand
for just answering someithg whcih is close to the persons company,
most have had to sign that they will not reveal company information on
the internet.

I still dont know how Ross gets away with what he does with CT , it
baffles me.

"Ed"  wrote in message 
news:XZ5WILIB38555.3084837963@anonymous.poster...

>> >Surely, there be more railway things happening in the U.K.
>> >or have loads of you migrated to other newsgroups?
>>
>> All Usenet is dying.
>>
>> It's not something ISPs push, and some don't even have servers. Half
>> of those who ARE here believe it's called 'Google Groups'.
>
> Usenet (indeed the internet) was injured when BillG made access
> possible for the non-technical.  Then AOL lowered the standards even
> further, and now (in the US, at least) WebTV makes it possible for the
> barely literate.


Whereas you used a customised email application (running on your personal OS 
naturally) to send your post to the anonymiser and email to news gateway 
software you wrote yourself, being a highly technical man?


> It's dying because every fool is allowed to use it now.


Next we'll be letting hoi polloi vote and educate their children. When will 
the madness end!

Dave

Martin WY wrote:


> I still dont know how Ross gets away with what he does with CT , it
> baffles me.


I can never decide whether this makes CT management very good, or
very bad!

(Don't answer that Ross ;-)


Charlie

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:07:17 +0100, Charlie Hulme wrote in
<dbr5jm$ub7$3@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk>, seen in uk.railway:

> Martin WY wrote:
> 
> > I still dont know how Ross gets away with what he does with CT , it
> > baffles me.
> 
> I can never decide whether this makes CT management very good, or
> very bad!
> (Don't answer that Ross ;-)


But I wanna! ;o)

If CT management were any good, I certainly *wouldn't* be allowed to
post much of what I say about the company. But then if CT management
were any good, I doubt I'd have the things to post in the first place.

Overall I'd prefer the quality management and the restrictions on my
postings. 


Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars and After Eight 'Any Time' mints
(a bit like mint Poppets) in the UK? I know I can get them in Germany,
but it's a bit far to go for some chocolate...

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:23:03 +0100, Ross 
wrote:


>On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:07:17 +0100, Charlie Hulme wrote in
><dbr5jm$ub7$3@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk>, seen in uk.railway:
>> Martin WY wrote:
>> 
>> > I still dont know how Ross gets away with what he does with CT , it
>> > baffles me.
>> 
>> I can never decide whether this makes CT management very good, or
>> very bad!
>> (Don't answer that Ross ;-)
>
>But I wanna! ;o)
>
>If CT management were any good, I certainly *wouldn't* be allowed to
>post much of what I say about the company. But then if CT management
>were any good, I doubt I'd have the things to post in the first place.
>
>Overall I'd prefer the quality management and the restrictions on my
>postings. 
>
>
>Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
>anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars and After Eight 'Any Time' mints
>(a bit like mint Poppets) in the UK? I know I can get them in Germany,
>but it's a bit far to go for some chocolate...

Google search under Almond Mars Bars to buy UK  brought up so many
pages  I couldnt read them .Try it Ross

Ed  wrote:

>> >Surely, there be more railway things happening in the U.K.
>> >or have loads of you migrated to other newsgroups?
>> 
>> All Usenet is dying.
>> 
>> It's not something ISPs push, and some don't even have servers. Half
>> of those who ARE here believe it's called 'Google Groups'.
>
>Usenet (indeed the internet) was injured when BillG made access
>possible for the non-technical.  Then AOL lowered the standards even
>further, and now (in the US, at least) WebTV makes it possible for the
>barely literate.
>
>It's dying because every fool is allowed to use it now.



Agree 100%.

Google Groups will probably be the death of Usenet, because it
introduces people to Usenet who have not the slightest idea of how it
works, and how best they should use it to get their message across.

Usenet was established as a simple way for academics and professional
people engaged in research, education and the defence industry to
exchange ideas.  Those people had other interests too, so Usenet
expanded to take in the hobbies and pastimes of these (generally very
intelligent) people.

Then, as you say, along came assholes online and DuffTV in the USA and
the cable Internet providers in the UK.  Seeing a "reply to" address
with a Blueyonder domain often devalues any content to zero.  

The rapid move downmarket meant that the average IQ of a Usenet user
plunged from 120+ (and probably a lot higher) to "How low can you go"
in about 5 years.  Couple that move downmarket with the unmoderated
nature of Usenet, and the result is that every redneck dumbass (or
regional equivalent) has their say, regardless of their intellectual
capacity.  

Looks like Andy Warhol was right.  :-(

There is nothing more off-putting than intelligent people having to
read the rantings of the terminally dyslexic - for dyslexia is the
usual excuse for their wilful ignorance and determined inability to
communicate in intelligible prose.

The answer probably lies in moderated web-based forums and email-based
mailing lists from where ignorance can be more easily excluded. This
certainly works well in several of my other interests, where forums
and mailing lists thrive in the absence of the ignorant idiots who are
endemic to Usenet. 

Unfortunately, my limited experience of the rail forums and lists
suggests that they may promote ignorance rather than exclude it.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:36:02 GMT, Martin WY wrote in
, seen in uk.railway:

> On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:23:03 +0100, Ross 
> wrote:
[...]
> >Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
> >anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars and After Eight 'Any Time' mints
> >(a bit like mint Poppets) in the UK? I know I can get them in Germany,
> >but it's a bit far to go for some chocolate...
>
> Google search under Almond Mars Bars to buy UK  brought up so many
> pages  I couldnt read them .Try it Ross


It pulls up lots of pages showing pictures of the wrappers thereof or
mentions of them, yes. 

What it doesn't do on the three pages of results I bothered checking
is point towards anywhere that sells them. 

A simple Google on 'Almond Mars Bars' adds one or two sites which
claim to sell them but which are out of stock. :(

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

Tony Polson wrote:


> 
> The rapid move downmarket meant that the average IQ of a Usenet user
> plunged from 120+ (and probably a lot higher) to "How low can you go"
> in about 5 years.  Couple that move downmarket with the unmoderated
> nature of Usenet, and the result is that every redneck dumbass (or
> regional equivalent) has their say, regardless of their intellectual
> capacity.  
> 


Do we have to have this sort of intellectual snobbery? People
who happen to work in computing, engineering and science are not the 
master race, and a usenet posting about trains is not a job application.

So far as our topic is concerned, a major problem is that
railways have (to many people) become less interesting in the
last five years.

Charlie

Martin WY wrote:


> I still dont know how Ross gets away with what he does with CT ,
> it baffles me.


Maybe he's not stupid enough to use his real name?

-- 
Chris Game

"Chance favors only the prepared mind." -- Louis Pasteur

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:43:59 GMT, Charlie Hulme
 wrote:


>Tony Polson wrote:
>
>> 
>> The rapid move downmarket meant that the average IQ of a Usenet user
>> plunged from 120+ (and probably a lot higher) to "How low can you go"
>> in about 5 years.  Couple that move downmarket with the unmoderated
>> nature of Usenet, and the result is that every redneck dumbass (or
>> regional equivalent) has their say, regardless of their intellectual
>> capacity.  
>> 
>
>Do we have to have this sort of intellectual snobbery? People
>who happen to work in computing, engineering and science are not the 
>master race, and a usenet posting about trains is not a job application.
>
>So far as our topic is concerned, a major problem is that
>railways have (to many people) become less interesting in the
>last five years.
>
>Charlie

Did ny email get through or was it your wrong email?

>
>
>

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:42:01 +0100, Ross 
wrote:


>On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:36:02 GMT, Martin WY wrote in
>, seen in uk.railway:
>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:23:03 +0100, Ross 
>> wrote:
>[...]
>> >Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
>> >anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars and After Eight 'Any Time' mints
>> >(a bit like mint Poppets) in the UK? I know I can get them in Germany,
>> >but it's a bit far to go for some chocolate...
>>
>> Google search under Almond Mars Bars to buy UK  brought up so many
>> pages  I couldnt read them .Try it Ross
>
>It pulls up lots of pages showing pictures of the wrappers thereof or
>mentions of them, yes. 
>
>What it doesn't do on the three pages of results I bothered checking
>is point towards anywhere that sells them. 
>
>A simple Google on 'Almond Mars Bars' adds one or two sites which
>claim to sell them but which are out of stock. :(

There is hope, get onto them again, if they are only out of stock it
wont be for long especially when they get people asking.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:57:03 GMT, Chris Game wrote in
<3qbg8mwkk4bx$.dlg@example.net>, seen in uk.railway:

> Martin WY wrote:
> 
> > I still dont know how Ross gets away with what he does with CT ,
> > it baffles me.
> 
> Maybe he's not stupid enough to use his real name?


Why does using my real name make me stupid?

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:46:09 GMT, Martin WY wrote in
, seen in uk.railway:

> On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:42:01 +0100, Ross 
> wrote:
[...]
> >A simple Google on 'Almond Mars Bars' adds one or two sites which
> >claim to sell them but which are out of stock. :(
>
> There is hope, get onto them again, if they are only out of stock it
> wont be for long especially when they get people asking.


Martin, can you please *not* quote an entire message when you can snip
most of it and still leave suitable context? I've snipped 19 lines and
yet the post is still perfectly understandable.

With regard to the Mars Bars, I shall just have to force myself to
stop off somewhere in Germany when I next pootle off on my travels.
Easiest way to do it, I reckon. :)

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

Ross wrote:


> 
> Why does using my real name make me stupid?
> 


Come off it! - Old hands here know your _real_ name,
Ebenezer.

Charlie

Ross wrote:

> With regard to the Mars Bars, I shall just have to force myself to
> stop off somewhere in Germany when I next pootle off on my travels.
> Easiest way to do it, I reckon. :)


You could get them shipped in from Canada through eBay!
http://search.ebay.co.uk/almond-mars-bars_W0QQfromZR40QQsojsZ1

Charlie Hulme  wrote:


>Do we have to have this sort of intellectual snobbery? 


It isn't intellectual snobbery.  It is merely an account of how Usenet
has changed.  Please feel free to challenge any facts you believe are
incorrect, particularly regarding the changes in social background and
educational ability of participants in Usenet discussions.


>So far as our topic is concerned, a major problem is that
>railways have (to many people) become less interesting in the
>last five years.


That's true.  I think it is also true to say that the privatised
railway is now (at long last) settling down to do a good job.  

Punctuality and reliability are steadily improving, bus operators are
steadily coming competent rail operators, and the new trains are by
and large settling in to their tasks.  The infrastructure is being
replaced and renewed at a rate not seen for a generation.

The whole thing is beginning to look less like a work in progress and
more like a slick operation.  Obviously there are exceptions, but even
Virgin and Central Trains seem to be getting more right than wrong
these days.

Compare the current situation with the penny-pinching lack of
investment in 1990s BR, the thoroughly botched privatisation, the
woeful performance of many of the TOCs in the early days post-1996 and
the lamentable failures of Railtrack PLC.  

We have had plenty to talk about for the last ten years - now things
are getting better, there are simply less topics to gripe about.

;-)

Ross wrote:


> Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
> anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars



On Liverpool Street station.


As it happens I am likely to pass through there in the next 3 or 4 days
so will look, and detail the outlet in question. (I am wary of quoting
it as these things have a high turnover.)


--
Nick

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:23:03 +0100, Ross 
wrote:


>Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
>anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars and After Eight 'Any Time' mints
>(a bit like mint Poppets) in the UK? I know I can get them in Germany,
>but it's a bit far to go for some chocolate...


Oh I don't know! A certain Margam driver known to both of us has been
known to do Koblenz to Zurich just to visit the Chocolate shop at the
Hbf :)

Nigel

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 00:34:02 +0100, Nigel Emery <> wrote in
, seen in uk.railway:

> On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:23:03 +0100, Ross 
> wrote:
> 
> >Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
> >anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars and After Eight 'Any Time' mints
> >(a bit like mint Poppets) in the UK? I know I can get them in Germany,
> >but it's a bit far to go for some chocolate...
> 
> Oh I don't know! A certain Margam driver known to both of us has been
> known to do Koblenz to Zurich just to visit the Chocolate shop at the
> Hbf :)


I suppose that's not really any different than my monthly day-trips to
Brussels for beer in the days when I was at New Street. Or going to
Cit-Europe in Calais on the Connex bus from Ashford (I wish that
still ran) to do my shopping...

I think I'd be tempted to head from Koblenz into Belgium for
chocolate, though. I do like Swiss chocolate - but Belgian is equally
nice IMO and is definitely better value for money. ;)


Hmm. I suppose I could have a weekend in Belgium and pop into Germany
on an EUregio ticket again. 

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 21:23:53 GMT, Charlie Hulme wrote in
<JtdEe.3537$bT4.2332@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>, seen in uk.railway:

> Ross wrote:
> 
> > Why does using my real name make me stupid?
> 
> Come off it! - Old hands here know your _real_ name,
> Ebenezer.


Shhh!!!! 

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

On 22 Jul 2005 14:37:12 -0700, D7666 wrote in
, seen in
uk.railway:

> Ross wrote:
> 
> > Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
> > anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars
> 
> On Liverpool Street station.
> 
> As it happens I am likely to pass through there in the next 3 or 4 days
> so will look, and detail the outlet in question. (I am wary of quoting
> it as these things have a high turnover.)


Please. :) 

Worth a trip to London if they do have them in stock...

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:28:07 +0100, Mark Morton wrote in
, seen in uk.railway:

> Ross wrote:
> > With regard to the Mars Bars, I shall just have to force myself to
> > stop off somewhere in Germany when I next pootle off on my travels.
> > Easiest way to do it, I reckon. :)
> 
> You could get them shipped in from Canada through eBay!
> http://search.ebay.co.uk/almond-mars-bars_W0QQfromZR40QQsojsZ1


Hey, the North American market gets an extra gram per Mars Bar! those
are 50g bars, whereas the one I have remaining from Germany is only
49g. Strange.
-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

In message , at 01:13:24 on 
Sat, 23 Jul 2005, Ross  remarked:

>Hey, the North American market gets an extra gram per Mars Bar! those
>are 50g bars, whereas the one I have remaining from Germany is only
>49g. Strange.


You may well find they are the same, but that the German distributors 
are being more conservative over the marking in case they get sent to 
jail for selling one that weighs 49.9g by mistake.
-- 
Roland Perry

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:13:24 +0100, Ross wrote:


> the North American market gets an extra gram per Mars Bar! those are
> 50g bars, whereas the one I have remaining from Germany is only 49g.


For the American market, the selling point is being BIG. Here in
calorie-conscious Europe, a 49g bar allows those who are fooled by
prices like 999.99 to believe they are only eating a 40g bar.

-- 
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9683669.html
(50002 (Class 114) at Lincoln St. Mark's, 15 Jul 1980)

Tony Polson  wrote in 
news:dte2e115th5pqu0c6c2sgbud3mgddi7sjv@4ax.com:

 

> The rapid move downmarket meant that the average IQ of a Usenet user
> plunged from 120+ (and probably a lot higher) to "How low can you go"
> in about 5 years.  Couple that move downmarket with the unmoderated
> nature of Usenet, and the result is that every redneck dumbass (or
> regional equivalent) has their say, regardless of their intellectual
> capacity.


All very elitist ... My IQ reaches three figures; unfortunately, there's a 
minus sign at the front. But I'm not sure that scum like me should be 
excluded from making a point, when our few over-worked brain cells can 
conspire to formulate one. Luckily for Usenet, in my case, this is a rare 
event. 
 
Rick.

Tony Polson  wrote in 
news:uto2e1dth3790cl39pfkd5bhkgu94eqg69@4ax.com:



>>So far as our topic is concerned, a major problem is that
>>railways have (to many people) become less interesting in the
>>last five years.
 
> We have had plenty to talk about for the last ten years - now things
> are getting better, there are simply less topics to gripe about.


As someone whose practical experience of railways was to pointlessly ride 
about all day loco-hauled, I should be one of those for whom the modern 
railway is less interesting. I rarely travel by train in Britain any more 
(railtours apart), yet I still find the subject interesting. I may not 
want to ride on a Pendolino or Voyager, but I still like to know any news 
about them, good or bad. And must a topic for this group necessarily be a 
gripe? And there will always be news of future plans for improvements and 
developments; new trains, stations or lines; the unexpected, such as 
accidents or terrorist activities - unwelcome, but big talking points. 
And if there's nothing else to discuss, there's always the "BBC shows 
inappropriate picture" fallback.

Rick.

P.S. "Fewer" topics, Tony, "fewer".

Ross  wrote in 
news:gh23e1t0g88an7vinfit038rf5gl726dmd@4ax.com:


>> > Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
>> > anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars
 
> Worth a trip to London if they do have them in stock...


Wow. Just how good are these Mars bars?

Ric.

In article ,
Tony Polson   wrote:

>Charlie Hulme  wrote:
>>So far as our topic is concerned, a major problem is that
>>railways have (to many people) become less interesting in the
>>last five years.
>
>That's true.  I think it is also true to say that the privatised
>railway is now (at long last) settling down to do a good job.  


You mean it's settling down to do a good job now that it's
entirely under state control again? ;)

-- 
Andy Breen ~ 	Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group
		http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/
		Feng Shui: an ancient oriental art for extracting
		 money from the gullible (Martin Sinclair)

So where are the decent rail blogs (apart from Annie Mole's 'Going
Underground' which is excellent)?

-- 
Chris Game

Maintenance-free:  When it breaks, it can't be fixed...

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:40:07 +0100, Rick Hughes wrote in
, seen in uk.railway:

> Ross  wrote in 
> news:gh23e1t0g88an7vinfit038rf5gl726dmd@4ax.com:
> 
> >> > Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
> >> > anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars
>  
> > Worth a trip to London if they do have them in stock...
> 
> Wow. Just how good are these Mars bars?


They're nice. Not really nice enough for a special trip, but as an
excuse for a day trip using my free passes, they'll do. ;)

And afterwards I can go off and be a tourist or something. Or annoy
security people by taking photos.

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

Ross wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:40:07 퍝, Rick Hughes wrote in
> , seen in uk.railway:
> > Ross  wrote in
> > news:gh23e1t0g88an7vinfit038rf5gl726dmd@4ax.com:
> >
> > >> > Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
> > >> > anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars
> >
> > > Worth a trip to London if they do have them in stock...
> >
> > Wow. Just how good are these Mars bars?
>
> They're nice. Not really nice enough for a special trip, but as an
> excuse for a day trip using my free passes, they'll do. ;)
>
> And afterwards I can go off and be a tourist or something. Or annoy
> security people by taking photos.
>
> --
> Ross, Lincoln, UK
>
> We're *not* afraid
> http://www.werenotafraid.com


Cyber Candy.

http://www.cybercandy.co.uk/

Cyber Candy,
11 Shelton Street,
Covent Garden,
London,
1WC2H 9JN.

Though a quick search would suggest they're sold out at the moment.

Also note that Strawberry Blancmange flavoured Japanese Kit-Kats may
cost a little more than the regular Kit-Kat in the corner shop. They
may even cost more than the regular Kit-Kat as vended on board GNER.

Do I win £100 in rail travel vouchers for my services to sweet-toothed
fans of the iron road?

Rick Hughes wrote:

> Tony Polson  wrote in
> news:dte2e115th5pqu0c6c2sgbud3mgddi7sjv@4ax.com:
>
>
> > The rapid move downmarket meant that the average IQ of a Usenet user
> > plunged from 120+ (and probably a lot higher) to "How low can you go"
> > in about 5 years.  Couple that move downmarket with the unmoderated
> > nature of Usenet, and the result is that every redneck dumbass (or
> > regional equivalent) has their say, regardless of their intellectual
> > capacity.
>
> All very elitist ... My IQ reaches three figures; unfortunately, there's a
> minus sign at the front. But I'm not sure that scum like me should be
> excluded from making a point, when our few over-worked brain cells can
> conspire to formulate one. Luckily for Usenet, in my case, this is a rare
> event.
>
> Rick


I am the spawn of the devil, as I use Google Groups. Why? Because I use
different computers from day to day, and web-based access makes it
easy. But that said, I am thick, like Rick, as can be seen from my
earlier contribution to this thread on the topic of Almond Mars Bars.

Rick Hughes  wrote:


>As someone whose practical experience of railways was to pointlessly ride 
>about all day loco-hauled, I should be one of those for whom the modern 
>railway is less interesting. I rarely travel by train in Britain any more 
>(railtours apart), yet I still find the subject interesting. I may not 
>want to ride on a Pendolino or Voyager, but I still like to know any news 
>about them, good or bad. And must a topic for this group necessarily be a 
>gripe? 



I wish that wasn't the case.  But that's Tabloid Britain for you.

Chris Tolley  wrote:


>On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:13:24 +0100, Ross wrote:
>
>> the North American market gets an extra gram per Mars Bar! those are
>> 50g bars, whereas the one I have remaining from Germany is only 49g.
>
>For the American market, the selling point is being BIG. Here in
>calorie-conscious Europe, a 49g bar allows those who are fooled by
>prices like 999.99 to believe they are only eating a 40g bar.



No, I think it has nothing to do with that.  It probably has much to
do with the differing requirements for labelling in the US and EU.

In the US, a manufacturer is still allowed to specify the average
content by weight (or volume).  In the EU, for the last few years,
manufacturers have to guarantee that 95% of packets contain more than
the declared weight (or volume).  The declared weight has to be
followed by the EU's approved lower case "e" to signify that this
statistical method is being applied.

I suspect the two countries' Mars Bars are identical, but the Euro
Mars has "49g e" rather than "50g average contents".

Rick Hughes  wrote:


>Ross  wrote in 
>news:gh23e1t0g88an7vinfit038rf5gl726dmd@4ax.com:
>
>>> > Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
>>> > anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars
> 
>> Worth a trip to London if they do have them in stock...
>
>Wow. Just how good are these Mars bars?



No doubt they rot your teeth and bring on Type 2 diabetes just as
quickly as the usual version.

In message , at 16:37:02 on 
Sat, 23 Jul 2005, Tony Polson  remarked:

>I suspect the two countries' Mars Bars are identical, but the Euro
>Mars has "49g e" rather than "50g average contents".


So the same as I already said.
-- 
Roland Perry

On 23 Jul 2005 07:02:19 -0700, Mizter T wrote in
, seen in
uk.railway:

> Ross wrote:
> > On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:40:07 +0100, Rick Hughes wrote in
> > , seen in uk.railway:
> > > Ross  wrote in
> > > news:gh23e1t0g88an7vinfit038rf5gl726dmd@4ax.com:
> > >
> > > >> > Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
> > > >> > anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars
> > >
> > > > Worth a trip to London if they do have them in stock...
> > >
> > > Wow. Just how good are these Mars bars?
> >
> > They're nice. Not really nice enough for a special trip, but as an
> > excuse for a day trip using my free passes, they'll do. ;)
> >
> > And afterwards I can go off and be a tourist or something. Or annoy
> > security people by taking photos.
> 
> Cyber Candy.
> http://www.cybercandy.co.uk/


Aye, that's the company I found on Google. 
 
[...] 

> Though a quick search would suggest they're sold out at the moment.


But they do have some rather interesting other things, don't they?



> Also note that Strawberry Blancmange flavoured Japanese Kit-Kats may
> cost a little more than the regular Kit-Kat in the corner shop. They
> may even cost more than the regular Kit-Kat as vended on board GNER.


The pineapple ones sound nice, but they're out of stock. :(
 


> Do I win 100 in rail travel vouchers for my services to sweet-toothed
> fans of the iron road?


I'm afraid not. You can come and watch me drooling over the stock in
the shop before deciding I can't afford any of it, though, if you
wish. ;-)

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

Tony Polson wrote:

> Chris Tolley  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:13:24 +0100, Ross wrote:
>>
>>> the North American market gets an extra gram per Mars Bar! those
>>> are 50g bars, whereas the one I have remaining from Germany is
>>> only 49g.
>>
>> For the American market, the selling point is being BIG. Here in
>> calorie-conscious Europe, a 49g bar allows those who are fooled by
>> prices like 999.99 to believe they are only eating a 40g bar.
>
>
> No, I think it has nothing to do with that.  It probably has much to
> do with the differing requirements for labelling in the US and EU.
>
> In the US, a manufacturer is still allowed to specify the average
> content by weight (or volume).  In the EU, for the last few years,
> manufacturers have to guarantee that 95% of packets contain more
> than the declared weight (or volume).  The declared weight has to be
> followed by the EU's approved lower case "e" to signify that this
> statistical method is being applied.


Not sure where your 95% rule comes from.  The rules are actually that

(a) At least 97.5% of packets must weigh at least W - T, where W is the
declared weight and T is the Tolerable Negative Error (TNE).
(b) 100% of packets must weigh at least W - 2T.
(c) The average weight of packets must be at least W.

The TNE varies between 1% and 9% according to weight.  For example, for
a 500g packet, it is 3%.

-- 
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:17:25 +0100, Ross 
wrote:


>On 23 Jul 2005 07:02:19 -0700, Mizter T wrote in
>, seen in
>uk.railway:
>> Ross wrote:
>> > On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:40:07 +0100, Rick Hughes wrote in
>> > , seen in uk.railway:
>> > > Ross  wrote in
>> > > news:gh23e1t0g88an7vinfit038rf5gl726dmd@4ax.com:
>> > >
>> > > >> > Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
>> > > >> > anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars
>> > >
>> > > > Worth a trip to London if they do have them in stock...
>> > >
>> > > Wow. Just how good are these Mars bars?
>> >
>> > They're nice. Not really nice enough for a special trip, but as an
>> > excuse for a day trip using my free passes, they'll do. ;)
>> >
>> > And afterwards I can go off and be a tourist or something. Or annoy
>> > security people by taking photos.
>> 
>> Cyber Candy.
>> http://www.cybercandy.co.uk/
>
>
> 
>
>> Do I win 100 in rail travel vouchers for my services to sweet-toothed
>> fans of the iron road?
>
>I'm afraid not. You can come and watch me drooling over the stock in
>the shop before deciding I can't afford any of it, though, if you
>wish. ;-)

Eyeee , and despite your ticking off, im still looking for you, and
found this on ebay last night.:-
Aye, that's the company I found on Google. 
10 items found for mars bars from eBay international sellers
 	 	Item Title	Price	Bids	Country	 
 	Listing has pictures	Vintage Box of Milky Way Mars Candy
Bars 1958 	US $1.99
	1	United States	 
 	Listing has pictures	MARS BARS COFFEE MUG 	US $5.99
	-	United States	 
 	Listing has pictures	24 Effem MARS Chocolate Candy Bars Bar
US $18.99
	Buy It Now	Canada	 
 	Listing has pictures	24 Effem MARS DARK Chocolate Candy
Bars Bar 1 Case FDA 	US $18.99
	-	Canada	 
 	Listing has pictures	24 Effem MARS ALMOND Chocolate Candy
Bars Bar 	US $19.99
	Buy It Now	Canada	 
 	 	24 MARS ALMOND CHOCOLATE C

Depends when you want them for, the rate of exchange isnt that bad.

Also tomorrow I was advised to phone Nestle regarding your mints as
their factory is next to our station in Halifax and they sell to the
public,  I will let you know how far I get.

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:28:45 +0100, Tony Polson  wrote:


>Rick Hughes  wrote:
>
>>As someone whose practical experience of railways was to pointlessly ride 
>>about all day loco-hauled, I should be one of those for whom the modern 
>>railway is less interesting. I rarely travel by train in Britain any more 
>>(railtours apart), yet I still find the subject interesting. I may not 
>>want to ride on a Pendolino or Voyager, but I still like to know any news 
>>about them, good or bad. And must a topic for this group necessarily be a 
>>gripe? 
>
>
>I wish that wasn't the case.  But that's Tabloid Britain for you.
>

are we not in the usual priod of Tabloid Britain, plus holiday = no
news to report so make it up?

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:17:25 +0100, Ross 
wrote:


>On 23 Jul 2005 07:02:19 -0700, Mizter T wrote in
>, seen in
>uk.railway:
>> Ross wrote:
>> > On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:40:07 +0100, Rick Hughes wrote in
>> > , seen in uk.railway:
>> > > Ross  wrote in
>> > > news:gh23e1t0g88an7vinfit038rf5gl726dmd@4ax.com:
>> > >
>> > > >> > Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
>> > > >> > anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars
>> > >
>> > > > Worth a trip to London if they do have them in stock...
>> > >
>> > > Wow. Just how good are these Mars bars?
>> >
>> > They're nice. Not really nice enough for a special trip, but as an
>> > excuse for a day trip using my free passes, they'll do. ;)
>> >
>> > And afterwards I can go off and be a tourist or something. Or annoy
>> > security people by taking photos.
>> 
>> Cyber Candy.
>> http://www.cybercandy.co.uk/
>
>
> 
>
>> Do I win 100 in rail travel vouchers for my services to sweet-toothed
>> fans of the iron road?
>
>I'm afraid not. You can come and watch me drooling over the stock in
>the shop before deciding I can't afford any of it, though, if you
>wish. ;-)

Eyeee , and despite your ticking off, im still looking for you, and
found this on ebay last night.:-
Aye, that's the company I found on Google. 
10 items found for mars bars from eBay international sellers
 	 	Item Title	Price	Bids	Country	 
 	Listing has pictures	Vintage Box of Milky Way Mars Candy
Bars 1958 	US $1.99
	1	United States	 
 	Listing has pictures	MARS BARS COFFEE MUG 	US $5.99
	-	United States	 
 	Listing has pictures	24 Effem MARS Chocolate Candy Bars Bar
US $18.99
	Buy It Now	Canada	 
 	Listing has pictures	24 Effem MARS DARK Chocolate Candy
Bars Bar 1 Case FDA 	US $18.99
	-	Canada	 
 	Listing has pictures	24 Effem MARS ALMOND Chocolate Candy
Bars Bar 	US $19.99
	Buy It Now	Canada	 
 	 	
24 MARS ALMOND CHOCOLATE CANDY BARS 	US $19.95
	Buy It Now	Canada
Depends when you want them for, the rate of exchange isnt that bad.

Also tomorrow I was advised to phone Nestle regarding your mints as
their factory is next to our station in Halifax and they sell to the
public,  I will let you know how far I get.

The message 
from Ross  contains these words:


> Worth a trip to London if they do have them in stock...


....and I thought smoking was addictive!

-- 
Dave,                                     
Frodsham

Ross wrote:

> On 23 Jul 2005 07:02:19 -0700, Mizter T wrote in
> , seen in
> uk.railway:
> > Ross wrote:
> > > On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:40:07 퍝, Rick Hughes wrote in
> > > , seen in uk.railway:
> > > > Ross  wrote in
> > > > news:gh23e1t0g88an7vinfit038rf5gl726dmd@4ax.com:
> > > >
> > > > >> > Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
> > > > >> > anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars
> > > >
> > > > > Worth a trip to London if they do have them in stock...
> > > >
> > > > Wow. Just how good are these Mars bars?
> > >
> > > They're nice. Not really nice enough for a special trip, but as an
> > > excuse for a day trip using my free passes, they'll do. ;)
> > >
> > > And afterwards I can go off and be a tourist or something. Or annoy
> > > security people by taking photos.
> >
> > Cyber Candy.
> > http://www.cybercandy.co.uk/
>
> Aye, that's the company I found on Google.
>
> [...]
> > Though a quick search would suggest they're sold out at the moment.
>
> But they do have some rather interesting other things, don't they?
>
>
> > Also note that Strawberry Blancmange flavoured Japanese Kit-Kats may
> > cost a little more than the regular Kit-Kat in the corner shop. They
> > may even cost more than the regular Kit-Kat as vended on board GNER.
>
> The pineapple ones sound nice, but they're out of stock. :(
>
>
> > Do I win £100 in rail travel vouchers for my services to sweet-toothed
> > fans of the iron road?
>
> I'm afraid not. You can come and watch me drooling over the stock in
> the shop before deciding I can't afford any of it, though, if you
> wish. ;-)


I would recommend a visit to the shop, it's small but packed. The
website came first, but the first I knew of Cyber Candy was when a
graphic designer friend showed it to me one day. He was more interested
in the crazy Japanese packaging. Apparently the place is a Mecca for
designers.

There are plenty of other 'kookie' shops around the backstreets of
Covent Garden / Seven Dials that are quite entertaining. My
recommendation is the Tintin shop!

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:37:02 +0100, Tony Polson wrote:

> Chris Tolley  wrote:
>>On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:13:24 +0100, Ross wrote:
>>
>>> the North American market gets an extra gram per Mars Bar! those are
>>> 50g bars, whereas the one I have remaining from Germany is only 49g.
>>
>>For the American market, the selling point is being BIG. Here in
>>calorie-conscious Europe, a 49g bar allows those who are fooled by
>>prices like 999.99 to believe they are only eating a 40g bar.
> 
> No, I think it has nothing to do with that.


Indeed. I missed the smiley off, thinking it superfluous.
-- 
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9628971.html
(D2991 (Class 07) at Eastleigh Works, Nov 1988)

On 23 Jul 2005 07:11:29 -0700, Mizter T wrote:


> I am the spawn of the devil, as I use Google Groups.


No, mate, you do quoting, so, far from being spawn of the devil, you are
on the road to righteousness.

-- 
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9683703.html
(51318 (Class 118) at Exeter St Davids, 1985)

Dunno about IQ mate - depends which test you take - but bloody Kit Kats
or something did for my Pancreas so its Metformin for me - bugger!!

So less about Mars Bars please - mind you Beswick mistook Mary Hopkin
for Marrianne Faithfull on Thursday - what a difference one made there!

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:16:09 +0100, David Jackson wrote in
, seen in uk.railway:

> The message 
> from Ross  contains these words:
> 
> > Worth a trip to London if they do have them in stock...
> 
> ...and I thought smoking was addictive!


Never did that, so perhaps I'm looking for substitutes. ;-)

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:03:35 GMT, Martin WY wrote in
, seen in uk.railway:

> Ross  wrote:
> >> > > >> > Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
> >> > > >> > anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars
[...]
> 10 items found for mars bars from eBay international sellers


Saw those too, but I'm wary about the cross-Atlantic transit and HM
Customs. Knowing my luck the package would get blown up as suspect!


[..]

> Also tomorrow I was advised to phone Nestle regarding your mints as
> their factory is next to our station in Halifax and they sell to the
> public,  I will let you know how far I get.


Thanks, Martin.

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

On 23 Jul 2005 10:51:43 -0700, Mizter T wrote in
, seen in
uk.railway:

> Ross wrote:
> > > Cyber Candy.  http://www.cybercandy.co.uk/
[...]
> I would recommend a visit to the shop, it's small but packed. The
> website came first, but the first I knew of Cyber Candy was when a
> graphic designer friend showed it to me one day. He was more interested
> in the crazy Japanese packaging. Apparently the place is a Mecca for
> designers.
> 
> There are plenty of other 'kookie' shops around the backstreets of
> Covent Garden / Seven Dials that are quite entertaining. My
> recommendation is the Tintin shop!


Sounds like a definite excuse for a day out, then. :)

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

The message 
from Ross  contains these words:


> > ...and I thought smoking was addictive!

> Never did that, so perhaps I'm looking for substitutes. ;-)


I stopped smoking because I decided that I wanted to.  I stopped being a
chocaholic/Softmint-addict because my body decided that I should. 
Luckily, unlike Frankie, I'm not a Metfartin "addict" - I have other
"addictions"...

-- 
Dave,                                     
Frodsham

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:40:31 +0100, Ross 
wrote:


>On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:03:35 GMT, Martin WY wrote in
>, seen in uk.railway:
>> Ross  wrote:
>> >> > > >> > Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
>> >> > > >> > anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars
>[...]
>> 10 items found for mars bars from eBay international sellers
>
>Saw those too, but I'm wary about the cross-Atlantic transit and HM
>Customs. Knowing my luck the package would get blown up as suspect!

 Ive bought loads of stuff on ebay from America  especially DVDs of
Broadway shows,  as well as pure wool clothing and never had a single
problem with delivery or customs, never had to pay anything/

>
>[..]
>> Also tomorrow I was advised to phone Nestle regarding your mints as
>> their factory is next to our station in Halifax and they sell to the
>> public,  I will let you know how far I get.
>
>Thanks, Martin.

Martin WY  wrote:


>On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:28:45 +0100, Tony Polson  wrote:
>
>>Rick Hughes  wrote:
>>
>>>As someone whose practical experience of railways was to pointlessly ride 
>>>about all day loco-hauled, I should be one of those for whom the modern 
>>>railway is less interesting. I rarely travel by train in Britain any more 
>>>(railtours apart), yet I still find the subject interesting. I may not 
>>>want to ride on a Pendolino or Voyager, but I still like to know any news 
>>>about them, good or bad. And must a topic for this group necessarily be a 
>>>gripe? 
>>
>>
>>I wish that wasn't the case.  But that's Tabloid Britain for you.
>>
>are we not in the usual priod of Tabloid Britain, plus holiday = no
>news to report so make it up?



True.

azb@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Robert Breen) wrote:


>In article ,
>Tony Polson   wrote:
>>Charlie Hulme  wrote:
>>>So far as our topic is concerned, a major problem is that
>>>railways have (to many people) become less interesting in the
>>>last five years.
>>
>>That's true.  I think it is also true to say that the privatised
>>railway is now (at long last) settling down to do a good job.  
>
>You mean it's settling down to do a good job now that it's
>entirely under state control again? ;)



Could be!  Either way, it appears to be settling down.

wrote in message 
news:1122150860.728822.208690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

> Dunno about IQ mate - depends which test you take - but bloody Kit Kats
> or something did for my Pancreas so its Metformin for me - bugger!!
>
> So less about Mars Bars please - mind you Beswick mistook Mary Hopkin
> for Marrianne Faithfull on Thursday - what a difference one made there!
>

Metformin?    500gm. 3 times a day!

Is it time to arrange the ukr (Metformin) meet? Bloody young 'uns will never 
sort theirs out!

KW

PS.  Membership available for the Astorvastatin sub-group.

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:22:36 +0100, David Jackson wrote in
, seen in uk.railway:

> The message 
> from Ross  contains these words:
> 
> > > ...and I thought smoking was addictive!
> 
> > Never did that, so perhaps I'm looking for substitutes. ;-)
> 
> I stopped smoking because I decided that I wanted to.  I stopped being a
> chocaholic/Softmint-addict because my body decided that I should. 
> Luckily, unlike Frankie, I'm not a Metfartin "addict" - I have other
> "addictions"...


I'm a Spearmint TicTac addict generally, but occasionally I like
something a little more substantial. 

At this moment in time it's a rum & coke. ;o)

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:27:18 GMT, Martin WY wrote in
, seen in uk.railway:

> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:40:31 +0100, Ross 
> wrote:
[...]
> >> >> > > >> > Now, on an entirely unrelated topic, does anyone know if there's
> >> >> > > >> > anywhere I can get Almond Mars Bars
> >[...]
> >> 10 items found for mars bars from eBay international sellers
> >
> >Saw those too, but I'm wary about the cross-Atlantic transit and HM
> >Customs. Knowing my luck the package would get blown up as suspect!
>  Ive bought loads of stuff on ebay from America  especially DVDs of
> Broadway shows,  as well as pure wool clothing and never had a single
> problem with delivery or customs, never had to pay anything/


Lucky you. I find that things either get here really fast - or just
vanish into the ether. 95% reaches me, mind, but I just know what my
luck is like. ;-/

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:55:41 +0100, Tony Polson  wrote:


>azb@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Robert Breen) wrote:
>
>>In article ,
>>Tony Polson   wrote:
>>>Charlie Hulme  wrote:
>>>>So far as our topic is concerned, a major problem is that
>>>>railways have (to many people) become less interesting in the
>>>>last five years.
>>>
>>>That's true.  I think it is also true to say that the privatised
>>>railway is now (at long last) settling down to do a good job.  
>>
>>You mean it's settling down to do a good job now that it's
>>entirely under state control again? ;)
>
>
>Could be!  Either way, it appears to be settling down.
>

Even live departure boards are becoming a bore and not worth checking
:-) as everything seems to be 'on time' now not like 18 to 20months
ago with  cancelled,  pined  etc

>> >Saw those too, but I'm wary about the cross-Atlantic transit and HM
>> >Customs. Knowing my luck the package would get blown up as suspect!
>>  Ive bought loads of stuff on ebay from America  especially DVDs of
>> Broadway shows,  as well as pure wool clothing and never had a single
>> problem with delivery or customs, never had to pay anything/
>
>Lucky you. I find that things either get here really fast - or just
>vanish into the ether. 95% reaches me, mind, but I just know what my
>luck is like. ;-/

In our case its what Royal Mail is like,  I shall never forget the
programme on TV about London and Mount Pleasant, and the ones they
took on, some high on drugs, never delivered any mail , just binned it
and went home.    But dont forget the monetary limit for customs is
38 I believe, and not much stuff is *declared* in America on the
green lable as being above that rate.

Ken wrote:


> Metformin?    500gm. 3 times a day!

> Is it time to arrange the ukr (Metformin) meet?
> Bloody young 'uns will never sort theirs out!

-------------------------------

Ken...

Still only twice a day for this Auld Pharte.

You must be further down the hill than I am!  ;-)


Regards,

DigitisED  (Eddie Bellass)

Mythical Merseyside, in the Occupied Territories
of Old Lancashire, United Kingdom.

Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free and checked
by a leading anti-virus system - updated continuously.

"Eddie Bellass"  wrote in message 
news:OfHEe.184774$Vo6.55007@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

> Ken wrote:
>
>> Metformin?    500gm. 3 times a day!
>
>> Is it time to arrange the ukr (Metformin) meet?
>> Bloody young 'uns will never sort theirs out!
> -------------------------------
>
> Ken...
>
> Still only twice a day for this Auld Pharte.
>
> You must be further down the hill than I am!  ;-)



Well, at least I'm off the "Water Tablets".

KW

In message , at 04:11:19 on 
Sun, 24 Jul 2005, Martin WY  remarked:

>Even live departure boards are becoming a bore and not worth checking
>:-) as everything seems to be 'on time' now not like 18 to 20months
>ago with  cancelled,  pined  etc


Marvellous what you can do when you add ten minutes more recovery time 
to the schedules. Whether it's an improvement or not...
-- 
Roland Perry

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:40:30 +0100, Ross 
wrote:


>On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:16:09 +0100, David Jackson wrote in
>, seen in uk.railway:
>> The message 
>> from Ross  contains these words:
>> 
>> > Worth a trip to London if they do have them in stock...
>> 
>> ...and I thought smoking was addictive!
>
>Never did that, so perhaps I'm looking for substitutes. ;-)


Try Horchata de Chufas, a sweet nutty drink.  I drink far too much
of it than is good for me!

-- 
Bill Hayles
http://www.rossrail.com
md@rossrail.com

Martin WY  wrote:


>
>>> >Saw those too, but I'm wary about the cross-Atlantic transit and HM
>>> >Customs. Knowing my luck the package would get blown up as suspect!
>>>  Ive bought loads of stuff on ebay from America  especially DVDs of
>>> Broadway shows,  as well as pure wool clothing and never had a single
>>> problem with delivery or customs, never had to pay anything/
>>
>>Lucky you. I find that things either get here really fast - or just
>>vanish into the ether. 95% reaches me, mind, but I just know what my
>>luck is like. ;-/
>In our case its what Royal Mail is like,  I shall never forget the
>programme on TV about London and Mount Pleasant, and the ones they
>took on, some high on drugs, never delivered any mail , just binned it
>and went home.    But dont forget the monetary limit for customs is
>38 I believe, and not much stuff is *declared* in America on the
>green lable as being above that rate.



The limit for duty-free importation is 18.00.

"Eddie Bellass"  wrote:


>Ken wrote:
>
>> Metformin?    500gm. 3 times a day!
>
>> Is it time to arrange the ukr (Metformin) meet?
>> Bloody young 'uns will never sort theirs out!
>-------------------------------
>
>Ken...
>
>Still only twice a day for this Auld Pharte.



Twice a day for me too.  

They don't call it Metfartin' for nowt.  :-(

;-)

Martin WY  wrote:

>
>Even live departure boards are becoming a bore and not worth checking
>as everything seems to be 'on time' now not like 18 to 20months
>ago with  cancelled,  pined  etc



Exactly.  I was at Leeds station last Sunday evening and was amazed to
find most trains running on time.  Amazed and delighted, actually.

Chris Tolley wrote:

> On 23 Jul 2005 07:11:29 -0700, Mizter T wrote:
>
> > I am the spawn of the devil, as I use Google Groups.
>
> No, mate, you do quoting, so, far from being spawn of the devil, you are
> on the road to righteousness.


I am led to believe the fact that Google Groups doesn't do quoting (at
least not as a function of it's most obvious 'Reply' link) is the main
reason that Usenauts have such an issue with it. I do admit that wen I
started using GG I also added a few posts where I comitting the same
cardinal sin of not quoting, but I've learnt my lesson.

(Perhaps all 'Google Groupies' should managed to take a look at a
newsgroup through a newsreader program on their computer, so they see
the issue first hand. Or even better, Google should fix their system.
But <massive understatement coming up> I'm well aware that's not the
first time someone's said that!)

The message <6mBEe.13919$vv6.8327@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>
from "Ken Ward"  contains these words:


>  Membership available for the Astorvastatin sub-group.


I can join that group, but not the Metfartin one. How about an
Amlodipine sub-group?

-- 
Dave,                                     
Frodsham

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:01:02 +0100, Tony Polson  wrote:


>Martin WY  wrote:
>>
>>Even live departure boards are becoming a bore and not worth checking
>>as everything seems to be 'on time' now not like 18 to 20months
>>ago with  cancelled,  pined  etc
>
>
>Exactly.  I was at Leeds station last Sunday evening and was amazed to
>find most trains running on time.  Amazed and delighted, actually.

Pity im currently in a very dire state of health which surgeons are
correcting, otherwise had I known I would have been delighted to
entertain you to drinks etc on Leeds Station..

Martin WY  wrote:


>On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:01:02 +0100, Tony Polson  wrote:
>
>>Martin WY  wrote:
>>>
>>>Even live departure boards are becoming a bore and not worth checking
>>>as everything seems to be 'on time' now not like 18 to 20months
>>>ago with  cancelled,  pined  etc
>>
>>
>>Exactly.  I was at Leeds station last Sunday evening and was amazed to
>>find most trains running on time.  Amazed and delighted, actually.
>Pity im currently in a very dire state of health which surgeons are
>correcting, otherwise had I known I would have been delighted to
>entertain you to drinks etc on Leeds Station..



Martin,

I'm sorry to hear you're unwell.  Best wishes for a speedy recovery.  

Drinks at Leeds will be on me to celebrate the surgeon's undoubted
skills and your renewed wellness.

Best regards,

Tony

Tony Polson wrote:


> They don't call it Metfartin' for nowt.  :-(

-----------------------

How very true Tony, hence my Sunday nickname!

But in compensation, if anybody ever takes the wind
out of your sails, you can always pop in another pill
and replenish your reserve supply!  ;-)


Regards,

DigitisED  (Eddie Bellass)

Mythical Merseyside, in the Occupied Territories
of Old Lancashire, United Kingdom.

Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free and checked
by a leading anti-virus system - updated continuously.

Ross  wrote:

> Lucky you. I find that things either get here really fast - or just
> vanish into the ether. 95% reaches me, mind, but I just know what my
> luck is like. ;-/


"The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one," he said.
"The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one - but still
they come!"

Theo

Ross  wrote:

> Lucky you. I find that things either get here really fast - or just
> vanish into the ether. 95% reaches me, mind, but I just know what my
> luck is like. ;-/


"The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one," he said.
"The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one - but still
they come!"

Theo

(and slightly more on-topic:)

'It seems totally incredible to me now that everyone spent that evening as
though it were just like any other. From the railway station came the sound
of shunting trains, ringing and rumbling, softened almost into melody by the
distance. It all seemed so safe and tranquil.

>>>Exactly.  I was at Leeds station last Sunday evening and was amazed to
>>>find most trains running on time.  Amazed and delighted, actually.
>>Pity im currently in a very dire state of health which surgeons are
>>correcting, otherwise had I known I would have been delighted to
>>entertain you to drinks etc on Leeds Station..
>
>
>Martin,
>
>I'm sorry to hear you're unwell.  Best wishes for a speedy recovery.  
>
>Drinks at Leeds will be on me to celebrate the surgeon's undoubted
>skills and your renewed wellness.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Tony

My favourite water hole Weatherspoons on the station it will be then.
Cheers,  would be nice to meet you.  We may eveb find Mike Roebuck
inside  who knows :-)

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:37:02 +0100, Tony Polson  wrote:


>The declared weight has to be
>followed by the EU's approved lower case "e" to signify that this
>statistical method is being applied.


Thanks - I've always wondered what that signified.

Neil

-- 
Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK
When replying please use neil at the above domain
'wensleydale' is a spam trap and is not read.

"David Jackson"  wrote in message 
news:313030303337333342E3BA7559@zetnet.co.uk...

> The message <6mBEe.13919$vv6.8327@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>
> from "Ken Ward"  contains these words:
>
>>  Membership available for the Astorvastatin sub-group.
>
> I can join that group, but not the Metfartin one. How about an
> Amlodipine sub-group?


Can I get associate membership with nifedipine ??

After reading the comments I believe I am testing a "calm" version of 
Metformin due to the definite lack of Beaufort tendances.  Mmmm?

KW.

The message <V7UEe.11087$Hd4.1621@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
from "Ken Ward"  contains these words:


> After reading the comments I believe I am testing a "calm" version of 
> Metformin due to the definite lack of Beaufort tendances.


Is there such a thing?  If so, I'd like to know which variety it is so
that my wife can request it from the doctor - it might work out cheaper
than getting her draughtproofed...

-- 
Dave,                                     
Frodsham

"David Jackson"  wrote in message 
news:313030303337333342E41FC088@zetnet.co.uk...

> The message <V7UEe.11087$Hd4.1621@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
> from "Ken Ward"  contains these words:
>
>> After reading the comments I believe I am testing a "calm" version of
>> Metformin due to the definite lack of Beaufort tendances.
>
> Is there such a thing?  If so, I'd like to know which variety it is so
> that my wife can request it from the doctor - it might work out cheaper
> than getting her draughtproofed...



Made by Auden McKenzie of Wembley and Distributed by Sovereign Medical of 
Basildon.

Beans by Netto.

KW

Martin WY  wrote:


>
>>>>Exactly.  I was at Leeds station last Sunday evening and was amazed to
>>>>find most trains running on time.  Amazed and delighted, actually.
>>>Pity im currently in a very dire state of health which surgeons are
>>>correcting, otherwise had I known I would have been delighted to
>>>entertain you to drinks etc on Leeds Station..
>>
>>
>>Martin,
>>
>>I'm sorry to hear you're unwell.  Best wishes for a speedy recovery.  
>>
>>Drinks at Leeds will be on me to celebrate the surgeon's undoubted
>>skills and your renewed wellness.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Tony
>My favourite water hole Weatherspoons on the station it will be then.
>Cheers,  would be nice to meet you.  We may eveb find Mike Roebuck
>inside  who knows :-)


Sounds good.  I visit Leeds regularly - approximately once a month.

"Eddie Bellass"  wrote:


>Tony Polson wrote:
>
>> They don't call it Metfartin' for nowt.  :-(
>-----------------------
>
>How very true Tony, hence my Sunday nickname!
>
>But in compensation, if anybody ever takes the wind
>out of your sails, you can always pop in another pill
>and replenish your reserve supply!  ;-)


LOL!

;-)

David Jackson  wrote:


>The message <V7UEe.11087$Hd4.1621@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
>from "Ken Ward"  contains these words:
>
>> After reading the comments I believe I am testing a "calm" version of 
>> Metformin due to the definite lack of Beaufort tendances.
>
>Is there such a thing?  If so, I'd like to know which variety it is so
>that my wife can request it from the doctor - it might work out cheaper
>than getting her draughtproofed...



Several years ago there was a replacement for Metformin that appeared
to have no side effects, certainly not of the flatulent variety.  

Sadly, soon after it was introduced it was linked with either liver or
kidney damage and had to be withdrawn.  I wonder if this is a revised
version of the same drug?

"Richard J."  wrote:.

>
>Not sure where your 95% rule comes from.  The rules are actually that


<much good stuff snipped>


Thanks for the correction!

wensleydale@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil Williams) wrote:


>On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:37:02 +0100, Tony Polson  wrote:
>
>>The declared weight has to be
>>followed by the EU's approved lower case "e" to signify that this
>>statistical method is being applied.
>
>Thanks - I've always wondered what that signified.



Yes, but do read Richard J's useful posting that corrects my figures.

Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

>'It seems totally incredible to me now that everyone spent that evening as
>though it were just like any other. From the railway station came the sound
>of shunting trains, ringing and rumbling, softened almost into melody by the
>distance. It all seemed so safe and tranquil.'



That dates it somewhat.  It is many years since the ringing and
rumbling sounds of shunting trains were heard widely across the UK.

Of course - in such distinguished company - Eddie, Tony etc - we should
all remember that one notable symptom of diabetes is a tendency to
grumpiness!

So its not oldness that caused it after all!

There again with so many owning up is it a by product of too much smoke
and cinders as a youth?

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 00:40:06 +0100, Tony Polson wrote:


> Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>>'It seems totally incredible to me now that everyone spent that evening as
>>though it were just like any other. From the railway station came the sound
>>of shunting trains, ringing and rumbling, softened almost into melody by the
>>distance. It all seemed so safe and tranquil.'
> 
> That dates it somewhat.  It is many years since the ringing and
> rumbling sounds of shunting trains were heard widely across the UK.


It's dated because it's H G Wells.
-- 
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9683806.html
(155 304 at Tyseley, 4 Oct 1987)

> There again with so many owning up (to diabetes) is it a
> by product of too much smoke and cinders as a youth?

--------------------------------

In my case, probably exacerbated by continuing to inhale
coal & oil-firing smoke well past my youth.

I threw my last shovelful of coal into a roaring firebox only
4 months ago, during a 2ft gauge railway's annual boiler
test by the boiler insurance engineer. I later got a couple of
10 minute spells at the regulator after the inspector had
given the thumbs up. No point in letting all that lovely white
steam just evaporate without making it do some work!

Alas, it was arthritis (= unreliability) rather than diabetes
that made me stand down from volunteer footplate duties.


Regards,

DigitisED  (Eddie Bellass)

Mythical Merseyside, in the Occupied Territories
of Old Lancashire, United Kingdom.

Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free and checked
by a leading anti-virus system - updated continuously.

"Eddie Bellass"  wrote in message 
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> Alas, it was arthritis (= unreliability) rather than diabetes
> that made me stand down from volunteer footplate duties.


VOLTAROL RAPID, I've stopped taking mine since the last scare!

KW

The message <f%UEe.6865$Oe4.240@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>
from "Ken Ward"  contains these words:


> > Is there such a thing?  If so, I'd like to know which variety it is so
> > that my wife can request it from the doctor - it might work out cheaper
> > than getting her draughtproofed...


> Made by Auden McKenzie of Wembley and Distributed by Sovereign Medical of 
> Basildon.


Thanks, Ken.  I'll have a quiet word with the pharmacist at our local
cosmetics shop and see if it's worthwhile pushing the doctor.


> Beans by Netto.


I didn't wish to know that! Kindly leave the stage!

-- 
Dave,                                     
Frodsham

The message 
from frankie@t-bird.freeserve.co.uk contains these words:


> Of course - in such distinguished company - Eddie, Tony etc - we should
> all remember that one notable symptom of diabetes is a tendency to
> grumpiness!

> So its not oldness that caused it after all!


I've always been grumpy. And miserable.


> There again with so many owning up is it a by product of too much smoke
> and cinders as a youth?


Not in my case.  Although I'd love to know how I got the infection which
led (eventually) to the diabetes.  

-- 
Dave,                                     
Frodsham

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:36:18 GMT, Bill Hayles wrote in
, seen in uk.railway:

> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:40:30 +0100, Ross 
> wrote:
> >On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:16:09 +0100, David Jackson wrote in
> >, seen in uk.railway:
> >> The message 
> >> from Ross  contains these words:
> >> 
> >> > Worth a trip to London if they do have them in stock...
> >> 
> >> ...and I thought smoking was addictive!
> >
> >Never did that, so perhaps I'm looking for substitutes. ;-)
> 
> Try Horchata de Chufas, a sweet nutty drink.  I drink far too much
> of it than is good for me!


Sounds like a 'to be tried' once job, TBH. I'm not a great one for
nutty drinks. Mind you, despite liking Almond Mars Bars, I'm not a
great one for nuts. I'm nutty enough as it is. ;-)

-- 
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com