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Help - re electric showers please   
I am replacing my broken redring shower with a new Redring Active 350
electric shower.
The shower is being fitted in a main bathroom, with the water tank being in
the loft about 6 feet above and 8 feet away from the shower.  I have just
downloaded the installation guide and that says the water tank must be 23
feet ABOVE the shower!!!!  So, does that mean that this shower is only
suitable to people living in a tower, with the shower on the ground floor
and the water tank in the top!

I know this is due to pressure, but my previous shower (Redring Super 8)
worked fine.

Any comments will be greatly appreciated as I was just about to purchase the
new shower.

Thank you in advance.
Date:Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:45:55 +0100   Author:  

Re: Help - re electric showers please   
"vw-stuff"  wrote in message 
news:bIGdnV9V4bhU_ULfRVnyig@pipex.net...

>I am replacing my broken redring shower with a new Redring Active 350
> electric shower.
> The shower is being fitted in a main bathroom, with the water tank being 
> in
> the loft about 6 feet above and 8 feet away from the shower.  I have just
> downloaded the installation guide and that says the water tank must be 23
> feet ABOVE the shower!!!!  So, does that mean that this shower is only
> suitable to people living in a tower, with the shower on the ground floor
> and the water tank in the top!
>
> I know this is due to pressure, but my previous shower (Redring Super 8)
> worked fine.
>
> Any comments will be greatly appreciated as I was just about to purchase 
> the
> new shower.



If it will take mains pressure, then substitute the tank with the mains 
piping.
-- 
Vass
Date:Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:48:27 +0100   Author:  

Re: Help - re electric showers please   
I thought having an electric shower fed from the mains is a definate no
no????



"Vass"  wrote in message
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>
> "vw-stuff"  wrote in message
> news:bIGdnV9V4bhU_ULfRVnyig@pipex.net...
> >I am replacing my broken redring shower with a new Redring Active 350
> > electric shower.
> > The shower is being fitted in a main bathroom, with the water tank being
> > in
> > the loft about 6 feet above and 8 feet away from the shower.  I have
just
> > downloaded the installation guide and that says the water tank must be
23
> > feet ABOVE the shower!!!!  So, does that mean that this shower is only
> > suitable to people living in a tower, with the shower on the ground
floor
> > and the water tank in the top!
> >
> > I know this is due to pressure, but my previous shower (Redring Super 8)
> > worked fine.
> >
> > Any comments will be greatly appreciated as I was just about to purchase
> > the
> > new shower.
>
>
> If it will take mains pressure, then substitute the tank with the mains
> piping.
> -- 
> Vass
>
>
Date:Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:41:06 +0100   Author:  

Re: Help - re electric showers please   
vw-stuff wrote:

> I thought having an electric shower fed from the mains is a definate
> no no????
>

Er, no. The whole point of an electric shower is to utilise a cold main 
(minimum of say 1.0bar) and so avoid the need for a hot water supply. 
Thermostatic mixers and/or power showers run off a head of water, both hot 
and cold (although I have seen a mains fed electric shower with an integral 
pump in the unit - designed for low mains pressure maybe?). Many people 
install gravity fed mixer systems in an upstairs shower room with the loft 
tank only a few feet above their heads and wonder why the shower pressure is 
useless - they need a power shower. Much better to install a gravity fed 
system in a downstairs room, or as far below the head of water as possible.
Cheers
Gilbert
Date:Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:35:16 +0100   Author:  

Re: Help - re electric showers please   
"vw-stuff"  wrote in message
news:bIGdnV9V4bhU_ULfRVnyig@pipex.net...

> I am replacing my broken redring shower with a new Redring Active 350
> electric shower.
> The shower is being fitted in a main bathroom, with the water tank being
in
> the loft about 6 feet above and 8 feet away from the shower.  I have just
> downloaded the installation guide and that says the water tank must be 23
> feet ABOVE the shower!!!!  So, does that mean that this shower is only
> suitable to people living in a tower, with the shower on the ground floor
> and the water tank in the top!
>
> I know this is due to pressure, but my previous shower (Redring Super 8)
> worked fine.
>
> Any comments will be greatly appreciated as I was just about to purchase
the
> new shower.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>


A 23 feet head of water is usually got from the mains supply, so take a
tapping off the feed pipe for the tank and divert it to the position of the
shower.

Instant showers do need a good pressure to make them any use, so it's best
to have it done properly.

Also check the cable to the shower to make sure it can handle the loading of
the new larger power rating.
Date:Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:52:30 GMT   Author:  

Re: Help - re electric showers please   
The pipe work is already there as all I am doing is replacing my broken
shower (Redring Super 8)
Was going to replace it with an 8.5kw shower, presume the old one is an 8kw
given it is called a "Super 8", so think the existing cables (put in by the
house builder) should cope with an extra 0.5kw?





"BigWallop"  wrote in message
news:20MDe.74502$G8.567@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

>
> "vw-stuff"  wrote in message
> news:bIGdnV9V4bhU_ULfRVnyig@pipex.net...
> > I am replacing my broken redring shower with a new Redring Active 350
> > electric shower.
> > The shower is being fitted in a main bathroom, with the water tank being
> in
> > the loft about 6 feet above and 8 feet away from the shower.  I have
just
> > downloaded the installation guide and that says the water tank must be
23
> > feet ABOVE the shower!!!!  So, does that mean that this shower is only
> > suitable to people living in a tower, with the shower on the ground
floor
> > and the water tank in the top!
> >
> > I know this is due to pressure, but my previous shower (Redring Super 8)
> > worked fine.
> >
> > Any comments will be greatly appreciated as I was just about to purchase
> the
> > new shower.
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
> >
>
> A 23 feet head of water is usually got from the mains supply, so take a
> tapping off the feed pipe for the tank and divert it to the position of
the
> shower.
>
> Instant showers do need a good pressure to make them any use, so it's best
> to have it done properly.
>
> Also check the cable to the shower to make sure it can handle the loading
of
> the new larger power rating.
>
>
Date:Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:57:37 +0100   Author:  

Re: Help - re electric showers please   
"vw-stuff"  wrote in message
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> The pipe work is already there as all I am doing is replacing my broken
> shower (Redring Super 8)
> Was going to replace it with an 8.5kw shower, presume the old one is an
8kw
> given it is called a "Super 8", so think the existing cables (put in by
the
> house builder) should cope with an extra 0.5kw?
>


Did the old shower have an integrated pump?  Are you sure the old shower is
fed from the tank, and not from the mains pipework that also supplies the
tank?

What sort of pressure do, or did, you get from the old shower?
Date:Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:31:32 GMT   Author:  

Re: Help - re electric showers please   
There is NO pump in the old shower.

<<<Are you sure the old shower is fed from the tank, and not from the mains
pipework that also supplies the tank >>>
I am not sure, will have a look.  I just presumed it was tank fed.



"BigWallop"  wrote in message
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>
> "vw-stuff"  wrote in message
> news:rd-dnUHGdawmEELfRVnyrg@pipex.net...
> > The pipe work is already there as all I am doing is replacing my broken
> > shower (Redring Super 8)
> > Was going to replace it with an 8.5kw shower, presume the old one is an
> 8kw
> > given it is called a "Super 8", so think the existing cables (put in by
> the
> > house builder) should cope with an extra 0.5kw?
> >
>
> Did the old shower have an integrated pump?  Are you sure the old shower
is
> fed from the tank, and not from the mains pipework that also supplies the
> tank?
>
> What sort of pressure do, or did, you get from the old shower?
>
>
Date:Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:47:53 +0100   Author:  

Re: Help - re electric showers please   
"vw-stuff"  wrote in message
news:LZCdnWPzi5UJOkLfRVnysQ@pipex.net...

> There is NO pump in the old shower.
>
> <<<Are you sure the old shower is fed from the tank, and not from the
mains
> pipework that also supplies the tank >>>
> I am not sure, will have a look.  I just presumed it was tank fed.
>


It may look like a pipe directly from the tank itself, but you should find
on appliances, especially on instant heating types, that mains water
pressure is used.
Date:Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:58:41 GMT   Author:  

Re: Help - re electric showers please   
Thanks BigWallop



"BigWallop"  wrote in message
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>
> "vw-stuff"  wrote in message
> news:LZCdnWPzi5UJOkLfRVnysQ@pipex.net...
> > There is NO pump in the old shower.
> >
> > <<<Are you sure the old shower is fed from the tank, and not from the
> mains
> > pipework that also supplies the tank >>>
> > I am not sure, will have a look.  I just presumed it was tank fed.
> >
>
> It may look like a pipe directly from the tank itself, but you should find
> on appliances, especially on instant heating types, that mains water
> pressure is used.
>
>
Date:Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:05:07 +0100   Author:  

Re: Help - re electric showers please   
Can you quote the actual wording of the sentence referred to in the 
installation guide.


"vw-stuff"  wrote in message 
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|I am replacing my broken redring shower with a new Redring Active 350
| electric shower.
| The shower is being fitted in a main bathroom, with the water tank being 
in
| the loft about 6 feet above and 8 feet away from the shower.  I have just
| downloaded the installation guide and that says the water tank must be 23
| feet ABOVE the shower!!!!  So, does that mean that this shower is only
| suitable to people living in a tower, with the shower on the ground floor
| and the water tank in the top!
|
| I know this is due to pressure, but my previous shower (Redring Super 8)
| worked fine.
|
| Any comments will be greatly appreciated as I was just about to purchase 
the
| new shower.
|
| Thank you in advance.
|
|
|
|
Date:Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:53:04 GMT   Author: