Hi Folks
Hope someone can help. I have a Pug 205 GTi that I bought a month or so ago 
for very little money. It sounded fine on the way down but in the last 
couple of weeks it has started to sound like a tractor! It sounds like an 
engine that is low on oil, you know the sound!! But the oil level is about 
three quarters full on the dipstick and I'm reluctant to top it up as I 
don't know what oil the previous owner used. The oil is clean though. I will 
do an oil and filter change on it but if this doesn't clear the noise then 
is there anything else it could be? Noisy tappets wouldn't be this loud 
would they? The only other thing I can think of is it's the exhaust blowing 
from the header pipes but it's difficult to tell as it only makes the 
horrible noise when the engine is under any kind of load, ie, when you put 
ur foot down a little when cruising, it barely makes the noise when at idle 
or when reving it at standstill.
Many thanks for any responses.

Gareth

sounds like exh manifold leaking.


"Gareth Watkins"  wrote in message
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> Hi Folks
> Hope someone can help. I have a Pug 205 GTi that I bought a month or so
ago
> for very little money. It sounded fine on the way down but in the last
> couple of weeks it has started to sound like a tractor! It sounds like an
> engine that is low on oil, you know the sound!! But the oil level is about
> three quarters full on the dipstick and I'm reluctant to top it up as I
> don't know what oil the previous owner used. The oil is clean though. I
will
> do an oil and filter change on it but if this doesn't clear the noise then
> is there anything else it could be? Noisy tappets wouldn't be this loud
> would they? The only other thing I can think of is it's the exhaust
blowing
> from the header pipes but it's difficult to tell as it only makes the
> horrible noise when the engine is under any kind of load, ie, when you put
> ur foot down a little when cruising, it barely makes the noise when at
idle
> or when reving it at standstill.
> Many thanks for any responses.
>
> Gareth
>
>

"Neil"  wrote in message 
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> sounds like exh manifold leaking.
>


I hope it's not main bearings. If it's not the exhaust, it might be from 
what you say. It might be worth having an oil pressure check done. But 
first, shove a potato up the exhaust pipe and see if the gases emit 
somewhere else.

Rob Graham

"Gareth Watkins"  wrote in message
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> Hi Folks
> Hope someone can help. I have a Pug 205 GTi that I bought a month or so
ago
> for very little money. It sounded fine on the way down but in the last
> couple of weeks it has started to sound like a tractor! It sounds like an
> engine that is low on oil, you know the sound!! But the oil level is about
> three quarters full on the dipstick and I'm reluctant to top it up as I
> don't know what oil the previous owner used. The oil is clean though. I
will
> do an oil and filter change on it but if this doesn't clear the noise then
> is there anything else it could be? Noisy tappets wouldn't be this loud
> would they? The only other thing I can think of is it's the exhaust
blowing
> from the header pipes but it's difficult to tell as it only makes the
> horrible noise when the engine is under any kind of load, ie, when you put
> ur foot down a little when cruising, it barely makes the noise when at
idle
> or when reving it at standstill.
> Many thanks for any responses.



Thrust bearings breaking up?? Check for sideways movement of crank whilst
assistance operates clutch. I've seen some where the shims have dropped into
the sump, and the throws of the crank were hitting the webs in the block!

Tim..

Gareth Watkins  wrote in message
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> Hi Folks
> Hope someone can help. I have a Pug 205 GTi that I bought a month or so
ago
> for very little money. It sounded fine on the way down but in the last
> couple of weeks it has started to sound like a tractor! It sounds like an
> engine that is low on oil, you know the sound!! But the oil level is about
> three quarters full on the dipstick and I'm reluctant to top it up as I
> don't know what oil the previous owner used. The oil is clean though. I
will
> do an oil and filter change on it but if this doesn't clear the noise then
> is there anything else it could be? Noisy tappets wouldn't be this loud
> would they? The only other thing I can think of is it's the exhaust
blowing
> from the header pipes but it's difficult to tell as it only makes the
> horrible noise when the engine is under any kind of load, ie, when you put
> ur


Were the Y and O so onerous to type given the length of the rest of the
post?

 foot down a little when cruising, it barely makes the noise when at idle

> or when reving it at standstill.
> Many thanks for any responses.
>
> Gareth


Big end bearing failure is common on this engine and generally manifests
most when under load. Common sense would indicate you eliminate blowing
exhausts first if you have no idea what sounds different engine faults make.
--
Dave Baker - Puma Race Engines (www.pumaracing.co.uk)