At present we only have a WC inside our house, in the bathroom, and this is
a serious inconvenience (no pun intended) at times. Because of this I am
thinking of using part of my garage to build a small 'wet' room -
incorporating a shower and washbasin, etc - to use when I get pretty mucky
(as I oftern do) whilst gardening, etc. I propose to dig out a channel along
the length of the garage to connect with the drains as they leave the
property as they head for the mains sewer. Whilst I would appreciate any
advice/recommendations from the more knowledgeable here, regarding best
practice, current regulation - and so on, my main question relates to the
waste from the washbasin, shower, etc. Do I have to have a separate pipe
from the garage for this, or can I somehow connect into the soil pipe around
the proposed WC?

"Barney"  wrote in message
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> At present we only have a WC inside our house, in the bathroom, and this
is
> a serious inconvenience (no pun intended) at times. Because of this I am
> thinking of using part of my garage to build a small 'wet' room -
> incorporating a shower and washbasin, etc - to use when I get pretty mucky
> (as I oftern do) whilst gardening, etc. I propose to dig out a channel
along
> the length of the garage to connect with the drains as they leave the
> property as they head for the mains sewer. Whilst I would appreciate any
> advice/recommendations from the more knowledgeable here, regarding best
> practice, current regulation - and so on, my main question relates to the
> waste from the washbasin, shower, etc. Do I have to have a separate pipe
> from the garage for this, or can I somehow connect into the soil pipe
around
> the proposed WC?
>
>

What drainage systems do you have at or near the garage?  Any fool can bring
water in, but it takes a good plumber to remove the used water safely and
without mess.

You really need to research on what the drainage systems will stand up to in
the way of changes, and do you have enough money and other resources to
complete the job safely and securely.  This type of work isn't simple, and
it carries many regulations on health, welfare and safety, and, of course,
structural layouts.

So don't take the job on until you've researched through some of the
www.odpm.gov.uk website for building regulations and health and safety pages
relevant to this type of work.

Barney wrote:
<snip> - and so on, my main question relates to the waste from the

> washbasin, shower, etc. Do I have to have a separate pipe from the
> garage for this, or can I somehow connect into the soil pipe around
> the proposed WC?


Basically, you can cut into a soil pipe either above the shit pipe, or about 
10in (?) below it, but not at the same level. The shower usually ends up 
lower, and the basin waste higher.
Cheers
Gilbert

"BigWallop"  wrote in message
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>
> "Barney"  wrote in message
> news:LqSdnWmeQcXFv0PfRVnyjQ@brightview.com...
> > At present we only have a WC inside our house, in the bathroom, and this
> is
> > a serious inconvenience (no pun intended) at times. Because of this I am
> > thinking of using part of my garage to build a small 'wet' room -
> > incorporating a shower and washbasin, etc - to use when I get pretty
mucky
> > (as I oftern do) whilst gardening, etc. I propose to dig out a channel
> along
> > the length of the garage to connect with the drains as they leave the
> > property as they head for the mains sewer. Whilst I would appreciate any
> > advice/recommendations from the more knowledgeable here, regarding best
> > practice, current regulation - and so on, my main question relates to
the
> > waste from the washbasin, shower, etc. Do I have to have a separate pipe
> > from the garage for this, or can I somehow connect into the soil pipe
> around
> > the proposed WC?
> >
> >
> What drainage systems do you have at or near the garage?  Any fool can
bring
> water in, but it takes a good plumber to remove the used water safely and
> without mess.
>
> You really need to research on what the drainage systems will stand up to
in
> the way of changes, and do you have enough money and other resources to
> complete the job safely and securely.  This type of work isn't simple, and
> it carries many regulations on health, welfare and safety, and, of course,
> structural layouts.
>
> So don't take the job on until you've researched through some of the
> www.odpm.gov.uk website for building regulations and health and safety
pages
> relevant to this type of work.
>


Well, thank you. With the exception of casting aspersions on my sanity, my
common sense, my general competence and my financial solvency I reckon
you've been most useful. And, by the way, I think I can manage to use google
on my own.

"gilbert"  wrote in message
news:42de6913$0$20193$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...

> Barney wrote:
> <snip> - and so on, my main question relates to the waste from the
> > washbasin, shower, etc. Do I have to have a separate pipe from the
> > garage for this, or can I somehow connect into the soil pipe around
> > the proposed WC?
>
> Basically, you can cut into a soil pipe either above the shit pipe, or
about
> 10in (?) below it, but not at the same level. The shower usually ends up
> lower, and the basin waste higher.
> Cheers
> Gilbert
>


Many thanks

"Barney"  wrote in message
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>
> "BigWallop"  wrote in message
> news:t%sDe.73881$G8.23748@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >
> > "Barney"  wrote in message
> > news:LqSdnWmeQcXFv0PfRVnyjQ@brightview.com...
> > > At present we only have a WC inside our house, in the bathroom, and
this
> > is
> > > a serious inconvenience (no pun intended) at times. Because of this I
am
> > > thinking of using part of my garage to build a small 'wet' room -
> > > incorporating a shower and washbasin, etc - to use when I get pretty
> mucky
> > > (as I oftern do) whilst gardening, etc. I propose to dig out a channel
> > along
> > > the length of the garage to connect with the drains as they leave the
> > > property as they head for the mains sewer. Whilst I would appreciate
any
> > > advice/recommendations from the more knowledgeable here, regarding
best
> > > practice, current regulation - and so on, my main question relates to
> the
> > > waste from the washbasin, shower, etc. Do I have to have a separate
pipe
> > > from the garage for this, or can I somehow connect into the soil pipe
> > around
> > > the proposed WC?
> > >
> > >
> > What drainage systems do you have at or near the garage?  Any fool can
> bring
> > water in, but it takes a good plumber to remove the used water safely
and
> > without mess.
> >
> > You really need to research on what the drainage systems will stand up
to
> in
> > the way of changes, and do you have enough money and other resources to
> > complete the job safely and securely.  This type of work isn't simple,
and
> > it carries many regulations on health, welfare and safety, and, of
course,
> > structural layouts.
> >
> > So don't take the job on until you've researched through some of the
> > www.odpm.gov.uk website for building regulations and health and safety
> pages
> > relevant to this type of work.
> >
>
> Well, thank you. With the exception of casting aspersions on my sanity, my
> common sense, my general competence and my financial solvency I reckon
> you've been most useful. And, by the way, I think I can manage to use
google
> on my own.
>
>

It wasn't meant to be offensive, just a saying in the trade.  Many people
talk about getting appliances installed, and they think only of the supply
of water to it.  Most don't realise that the used water has to go back out
again properly.

Sincerely sorry if I offended you by the remark, but it was a joking comment
rather than a slander of your skills.

Good luck with it all.

"BigWallop"  wrote in message
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>
> "Barney"  wrote in message
> news:RsKdnTMAV_1Y5kPfRVnyjA@brightview.com...
> >
> > "BigWallop"  wrote in message
> > news:t%sDe.73881$G8.23748@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > >
> > > "Barney"  wrote in message
> > > news:LqSdnWmeQcXFv0PfRVnyjQ@brightview.com...
> > > > At present we only have a WC inside our house, in the bathroom, and
> this
> > > is
> > > > a serious inconvenience (no pun intended) at times. Because of this
I
> am
> > > > thinking of using part of my garage to build a small 'wet' room -
> > > > incorporating a shower and washbasin, etc - to use when I get pretty
> > mucky
> > > > (as I oftern do) whilst gardening, etc. I propose to dig out a
channel
> > > along
> > > > the length of the garage to connect with the drains as they leave
the
> > > > property as they head for the mains sewer. Whilst I would appreciate
> any
> > > > advice/recommendations from the more knowledgeable here, regarding
> best
> > > > practice, current regulation - and so on, my main question relates
to
> > the
> > > > waste from the washbasin, shower, etc. Do I have to have a separate
> pipe
> > > > from the garage for this, or can I somehow connect into the soil
pipe
> > > around
> > > > the proposed WC?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > What drainage systems do you have at or near the garage?  Any fool can
> > bring
> > > water in, but it takes a good plumber to remove the used water safely
> and
> > > without mess.
> > >
> > > You really need to research on what the drainage systems will stand up
> to
> > in
> > > the way of changes, and do you have enough money and other resources
to
> > > complete the job safely and securely.  This type of work isn't simple,
> and
> > > it carries many regulations on health, welfare and safety, and, of
> course,
> > > structural layouts.
> > >
> > > So don't take the job on until you've researched through some of the
> > > www.odpm.gov.uk website for building regulations and health and safety
> > pages
> > > relevant to this type of work.
> > >
> >
> > Well, thank you. With the exception of casting aspersions on my sanity,
my
> > common sense, my general competence and my financial solvency I reckon
> > you've been most useful. And, by the way, I think I can manage to use
> google
> > on my own.
> >
> >
> It wasn't meant to be offensive, just a saying in the trade.  Many people
> talk about getting appliances installed, and they think only of the supply
> of water to it.  Most don't realise that the used water has to go back out
> again properly.
>
> Sincerely sorry if I offended you by the remark, but it was a joking
comment
> rather than a slander of your skills.
>
> Good luck with it all.


Fair enough, Big Wallop, and thanks. If I post here, asking advice, I always
try to sound as modest as possible - my logic being that if you want
someone's help you shouldn't come the 'Johnny-know-all'. In doing that
perhaps I sound a little naive and inexperienced, but I can assure you that
I'm not. In fact I have a great deal of experience, and I know what I'm
doing, but I'm sensible enough to seek advice if I'm not completely sure
about anything.