Anyone else out there using Skype?
www.skype.com

It's wonderful! Free or very cheap phone calls via the internet to anywhere 
in the world! I've just installed it and tested it with a call to a pal in 
Edinburgh, using a headset rather than a phone. She says my voice sounds 
sort of ethereal but quite clear. I'm impressed. Only trouble is, I have to 
unplug my hifi setup from my sound card and plug in the headset every time I 
want to use it, and of course the sockets are round the back, but it's worth 
the hassle for the money you save.

If the person you're calling also has Skype installed the call is free, but 
if you're calling a normal phone it costs a little, but not much.

ally-wondering-who-to-disturb-next

"a l l y"  wrote in message 
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> Anyone else out there using Skype?
> www.skype.com
>
> It's wonderful! Free or very cheap phone calls via the internet to 
> anywhere in the world! I've just installed it and tested it with a call to 
> a pal in Edinburgh, using a headset rather than a phone. She says my voice 
> sounds sort of ethereal but quite clear. I'm impressed. Only trouble is, I 
> have to unplug my hifi setup from my sound card and plug in the headset 
> every time I want to use it, and of course the sockets are round the back, 
> but it's worth the hassle for the money you save.
>
> If the person you're calling also has Skype installed the call is free, 
> but if you're calling a normal phone it costs a little, but not much.
>


Hi Ally, I've used it before. I called my mum in Somerset using it, pretty 
good quality (I have broadband).

Maybe you can get some sort of splitter, so you can have the headset and 
hifi connected at the same time.

Andy

> Hi Ally, I've used it before. I called my mum in Somerset
> using it, pretty good quality (I have broadband).
> 
> Maybe you can get some sort of splitter, so you can have
> the headset and hifi connected at the same time.
> 
> Andy 


I read about Skype on p45 of July 2005 PC World (NA Edition). I 
could scan the page and email it to you guys if you'd like to 
read what they say about it. It starts out by wondering why 
people sign up to pay companies like Vonage for something that 
is available for free and works well.

Me, I'm not a long distance caller type of guy. Can you imagine 
if Edith had your Skype number? Life wouldn't be worth living!

Johnny-local-calls-only

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<snip>


> Me, I'm not a long distance caller type of guy. Can you imagine
> if Edith had your Skype number? Life wouldn't be worth living!
>


;-) E-mail keeps people at a safer distance

Andy - not the weekend yet?

"andy"  wrote in message
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message
> news:3jpks2Fr7ng3U1@individual.net...
> > Anyone else out there using Skype?
> > www.skype.com
> >
> > It's wonderful! Free or very cheap phone calls via the internet to
> > anywhere in the world! I've just installed it and tested it with a call
to
> > a pal in Edinburgh, using a headset rather than a phone. She says my
voice
> > sounds sort of ethereal but quite clear. I'm impressed. Only trouble is,
I
> > have to unplug my hifi setup from my sound card and plug in the headset
> > every time I want to use it, and of course the sockets are round the
back,
> > but it's worth the hassle for the money you save.
> >
> > If the person you're calling also has Skype installed the call is free,
> > but if you're calling a normal phone it costs a little, but not much.
> >
>
> Hi Ally, I've used it before. I called my mum in Somerset using it, pretty
> good quality (I have broadband).
>
> Maybe you can get some sort of splitter, so you can have the headset and
> hifi connected at the same time.
>
> Andy


It sounds like the telephone central from "The Little House on the Prairie."
Stick a jack plug in. Take it out. Stick another in. I can just see Ally
among all her bric o bracs, dogs, cats, funny hat on, big green
knickerbockers.

BWAAAaHAHAHAJHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa oh blow me over.

Edith.

<Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message
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> > Hi Ally, I've used it before. I called my mum in Somerset
> > using it, pretty good quality (I have broadband).
> >
> > Maybe you can get some sort of splitter, so you can have
> > the headset and hifi connected at the same time.
> >
> > Andy
>
> I read about Skype on p45 of July 2005 PC World (NA Edition). I
> could scan the page and email it to you guys if you'd like to
> read what they say about it. It starts out by wondering why
> people sign up to pay companies like Vonage for something that
> is available for free and works well.
>
> Me, I'm not a long distance caller type of guy. Can you imagine
> if Edith had your Skype number? Life wouldn't be worth living!
>
> Johnny-local-calls-only


The loops at the ends are for hooking over your ears.

Edith.

"a l l y"  wrote in message
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> Anyone else out there using Skype?
> www.skype.com
>
> It's wonderful! Free or very cheap phone calls via the internet to
anywhere
> in the world! I've just installed it and tested it with a call to a pal in
> Edinburgh, using a headset rather than a phone. She says my voice sounds
> sort of ethereal but quite clear. I'm impressed. Only trouble is, I have
to
> unplug my hifi setup from my sound card and plug in the headset every time
I
> want to use it, and of course the sockets are round the back, but it's
worth
> the hassle for the money you save.
>
> If the person you're calling also has Skype installed the call is free,
but
> if you're calling a normal phone it costs a little, but not much.
>
> ally-wondering-who-to-disturb-next


how much does it cost to phone a normal person?

Edith..hahahaha-I'm funny :)))))))))

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>
> <Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message
> news:42d7c2a8$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net...
>
> <snip>
>
> > Me, I'm not a long distance caller type of guy.


Mingy.

Can you imagine

> > if Edith had your Skype number? Life wouldn't be worth living!


Skype! Skype! Where do all these funny words come from.

Once I had a skype
It was four foot long
When I tried to use it
I did it all wrong.

>
> ;-) E-mail keeps people at a safer distance


Yes. I. This cabbage tastes awful. D'ye want some, Andy

>
> Andy - not the weekend yet?


Another day to go and you'll be in seventh heaven again, Andy. Hihihi. Your
doomed. Bah!

Must run: Probabley the cabbage.
Edith.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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> Skype! Skype! Where do all these funny words come from.


Another world.


>
> Once I had a skype
> It was four foot long
> When I tried to use it
> I did it all wrong.


lol

Have you written a book?


> Yes. I. This cabbage tastes awful. D'ye want some, Andy


Not right now, thanks. Got a cold beer?

> ;-) E-mail keeps people at a safer distance
> 
> Andy - not the weekend yet? 


Not even lunch time here.

Johnny-watching-the-clock

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> how much does it cost to phone a normal person?
> 
> Edith..hahahaha-I'm funny :)))))))))


That's the thing, Edith. Skype gives you long distance calling 
free!

You just need to keep your coffee can aligned properly.

Johnny-educational

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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
> news:R_PBe.59911$Fe7.196431@news000.worldonline.dk...
>
> > Skype! Skype! Where do all these funny words come from.
>
> Another world.
>
> >
> > Once I had a skype
> > It was four foot long
> > When I tried to use it
> > I did it all wrong.
>
> lol
>
> Have you written a book?


No, just a book of poems, had enough material for one more and lost it all
on the net. Some of my best work too and I'm collecting material for one
more, more or less, all the time.

I have always written songs, then Sleepy got me going on verse and now I
can't seem to stop. I think it's the paint. I'm a bit hyper today. my son
phoned and said-coffee in town, now, at Sjsiden, it's your Grandchild's
birthday. I'd fogotten, so I jumped on me pushbike and cycled to town, was
drenched by the time I got there to find the cafe packed and they didn't
have enough cups and stuff, so we walked farther down the road and found a
nice quiet cafe in a hotel lounge. Errrrm, the point was, what with three
hours of sniffing paint and all that coffee I'm all, like, me eyes are big
round things and I have the accelerator at full blast on first gear. It's
awful.

Awful Edith.

<Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message
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> > how much does it cost to phone a normal person?
> >
> > Edith..hahahaha-I'm funny :)))))))))
>
> That's the thing, Edith. Skype gives you long distance calling
> free!
>
> You just need to keep your coffee can aligned properly.
>
> Johnny-educational


I've had enough enough enough enough enough, oops! coffee for one day thank
you. Besides, I'm terrified of telephones. They're my week spot. Every time
they ring my heart beats faster. It's awful.

Awful Edith.

Ray phoned me from Australia once when I was in Cumbria and I almost fell
down stairs. Bless him. Bless you Ray.

Every time the phone rang Orly was shoving it into my hand saying, you take
it, you can spaek English better than me-which isn't true has I keep
tripping up on the words.It's awful-

Awful Edith.

> I've had enough enough enough enough enough, oops! coffee
> for one day thank you. Besides, I'm terrified of
> telephones. They're my week spot. Every time they ring my
> heart beats faster. It's awful. 
> 
> Awful Edith.
> 
> Ray phoned me from Australia once when I was in Cumbria and
> I almost fell down stairs. Bless him. Bless you Ray.
> 
> Every time the phone rang Orly was shoving it into my hand
> saying, you take it, you can spaek English better than
> me-which isn't true has I keep tripping up on the
> words.It's awful- 
> 
> Awful Edith.


Skype only works through your PC. Your telephone phobias need 
not interfere. Your PC speakers and a cheap small microphone are 
all you need, I think.

Don't worry about your English pronounciation. The things you 
say are complete rubbish anyway. I remember the BBC Cumbria 
radio interview, you know.

You could use Skype to sing Andy a song!

Johnny-being-helpful-about-something-he-knows-nothing-about

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"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> <Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message
> news:42d7da4c$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net...
>> > how much does it cost to phone a normal person?
>> >
>> > Edith..hahahaha-I'm funny :)))))))))
>>
>> That's the thing, Edith. Skype gives you long distance calling
>> free!
>>
>> You just need to keep your coffee can aligned properly.
>>
>> Johnny-educational
>
> I've had enough enough enough enough enough, oops! coffee for one day 
> thank
> you. Besides, I'm terrified of telephones. They're my week spot. Every 
> time
> they ring my heart beats faster. It's awful.
>
> Awful Edith.
>
> Ray phoned me from Australia once when I was in Cumbria and I almost fell
> down stairs. Bless him. Bless you Ray.
>
> Every time the phone rang Orly was shoving it into my hand saying, you 
> take
> it, you can spaek English better than me-which isn't true has I keep
> tripping up on the words.It's awful-
>
> Awful Edith.
>

Edith, My daughter has asked about Skype.  Our phone bills are enormous. 
They are talking about taking it up in Brisbane.  When they were in England 
we used the MSM system quite a bit.  We had a slow connection at the time 
and we occasionally used the webcam thingy but the pictures were only 
alright.   But it meant we could keep in daily contact for nothing
Ray

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:20:55 +0200, The Traveller wrote:


> I'm terrified of telephones. They're my week spot.


s/week/weak/

I'm not terrified of 'em but I don't like 'em. Never had a 'phone when 
growing up, first 'phone I had access two was after moving out from 
the family home at 18. We kids (well my two sisters really) had to 
bully the parents into getting one after we had all left home.

Nasty things, don't like 'em. Unfortunately a necessary evil in modern 
society.

-- 
Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail

<Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message 
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>> Hi Ally, I've used it before. I called my mum in Somerset
>> using it, pretty good quality (I have broadband).
>>
>> Maybe you can get some sort of splitter, so you can have
>> the headset and hifi connected at the same time.
>>
>> Andy
>
> I read about Skype on p45 of July 2005 PC World (NA Edition). I
> could scan the page and email it to you guys if you'd like to
> read what they say about it. It starts out by wondering why
> people sign up to pay companies like Vonage for something that
> is available for free and works well.
>
> Me, I'm not a long distance caller type of guy. Can you imagine
> if Edith had your Skype number? Life wouldn't be worth living!
>

Well it even makes calls within the UK a bit cheaper. I phone Edinburgh 
quite a lot, and Steve calls his family in other parts of England: these are 
considered long-distance (although in North America a distance like that 
would probably count as local). Although I know quite a number of people 
outside the UK - including many good friends right here - I can't think of 
very much I'd want to talk to them about on the phone - they're either email 
or paper-letter friends and I'd be tongue-tied if I had to chat to them on 
the phone. Funny that. Might be useful for the occasional thing like trying 
to organise some super-complicated boink or something, but otherwise, dont' 
worry, I have no intention of phoning you or anyone else here!

ally

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> I have always written songs, then Sleepy got me going on verse and now I
> can't seem to stop. I think it's the paint. I'm a bit hyper today. my son
> phoned and said-coffee in town, now, at Sjsiden, it's your Grandchild's
> birthday. I'd fogotten, so I jumped on me pushbike and cycled to town, was
> drenched by the time I got there to find the cafe packed and they didn't
> have enough cups and stuff, so we walked farther down the road and found a
> nice quiet cafe in a hotel lounge. Errrrm, the point was, what with three
> hours of sniffing paint and all that coffee I'm all, like, me eyes are big
> round things and I have the accelerator at full blast on first gear. It's
> awful.
>

Junkie!

ally

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> how much does it cost to phone a normal person?
>


I don't know any normal people, or so Steve keeps telling me.

ally

"Ray Ingham"  wrote in message 
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>>
> Edith, My daughter has asked about Skype.  Our phone bills are enormous. 
> They are talking about taking it up in Brisbane.  When they were in 
> England we used the MSM system quite a bit.  We had a slow connection at 
> the time and we occasionally used the webcam thingy but the pictures were 
> only alright.   But it meant we could keep in daily contact for nothing
> Ray

You are the very sort of family that Skype is perfect for. You should set it 
up at both ends at once and save huge amounts of money!

ally

"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:20:55 +0200, The Traveller wrote:
>
>> I'm terrified of telephones. They're my week spot.
>
> s/week/weak/
>
> I'm not terrified of 'em but I don't like 'em. Never had a 'phone when
> growing up, first 'phone I had access two was after moving out from
> the family home at 18. We kids (well my two sisters really) had to
> bully the parents into getting one after we had all left home.
>

My granny got the first phone in our stair in Edinburgh, back in the 1940s, 
after she'd caught a burglar in the flat. She chased him out with a big 
stick and he ran off (she was a feisty lady, my granny) but she realised it 
would have been very useful to have been able to phone the police, so she 
got a telephone line put in. For many years it was the only phone in the 
stair and even when I was little we'd get the occasional visit from a 
neighbour asking politely if they could use the phone. They'd always leave 
money - 4d, I think - beside it when they were done.

Despite all that, I hated the phone as a child. Sometimes when you picked it 
up it made scary noises so I tried to avoid it.

However, I have grown up now. Phones are just another communication tool: 
and where would I be without my trusty mobile?

ally

a l l y wrote:


> Well it even makes calls within the UK a bit cheaper. I phone Edinburgh 
> quite a lot, and Steve calls his family in other parts of England: these are 
> considered long-distance (although in North America a distance like that 
> would probably count as local). Although I know quite a number of people 
> outside the UK - including many good friends right here - I can't think of 
> very much I'd want to talk to them about on the phone - they're either email 
> or paper-letter friends and I'd be tongue-tied if I had to chat to them on 
> the phone. Funny that. Might be useful for the occasional thing like trying 
> to organise some super-complicated boink or something, but otherwise, dont' 
> worry, I have no intention of phoning you or anyone else here!
> 
> ally 
> 
> 

Actually, in the US, anything outside your county, which is about the 
same size as an English county, is "regional" and out of state can be 
"Long Distance".  There are generous cheap rates at weekends etc.

Unless I had some special deal (which I actually do), it would cost me 
asa much to phone someone in Johnnyland as it would to phone Ally-land.

Jp

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>
> "Ray Ingham"  wrote in message 
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>>>
>> Edith, My daughter has asked about Skype.  Our phone bills are enormous. 
>> They are talking about taking it up in Brisbane.  When they were in 
>> England we used the MSM system quite a bit.  We had a slow connection at 
>> the time and we occasionally used the webcam thingy but the pictures were 
>> only alright.   But it meant we could keep in daily contact for nothing
>> Ray
> You are the very sort of family that Skype is perfect for. You should set 
> it up at both ends at once and save huge amounts of money!
>
> ally

One of our daughters is talking about moving to Vancouver and another 
thinking about going to Singapore for a few years.  It would be great to 
have kids that didn't move as often as ours.  Still it does give us a good 
excuse to visit them
Ray

<Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message
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> > I've had enough enough enough enough enough, oops! coffee
> > for one day thank you. Besides, I'm terrified of
> > telephones. They're my week spot. Every time they ring my
> > heart beats faster. It's awful.
> >
> > Awful Edith.
> >
> > Ray phoned me from Australia once when I was in Cumbria and
> > I almost fell down stairs. Bless him. Bless you Ray.
> >
> > Every time the phone rang Orly was shoving it into my hand
> > saying, you take it, you can spaek English better than
> > me-which isn't true has I keep tripping up on the
> > words.It's awful-
> >
> > Awful Edith.
>
> Skype only works through your PC. Your telephone phobias need
> not interfere. Your PC speakers and a cheap small microphone are
> all you need, I think.
>
> Don't worry about your English pronounciation. The things you
> say are complete rubbish anyway. I remember the BBC Cumbria
> radio interview, you know.
>
> You could use Skype to sing Andy a song!
>
> Johnny-being-helpful-about-something-he-knows-nothing-about


I wouldn't dare. I'm all tough like on uklc but in reality I'm quite a shy
person. You won't get me to speak unless I'm forced to. Orlando says Skype,
here demand a monthly payment and only if you are talking to someone else
with Skype is it free-or summet. he has a small mic by his pc. I don't want
one. I don't want one.

Edith.

"Ray Ingham"  wrote in message
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> Edith, My daughter has asked about Skype.  Our phone bills are enormous.
> They are talking about taking it up in Brisbane.  When they were in
England
> we used the MSM system quite a bit.  We had a slow connection at the time
> and we occasionally used the webcam thingy but the pictures were only
> alright.   But it meant we could keep in daily contact for nothing
> Ray
>


My phone bills were enormous too compared to my income, Ray. I was so angry
I phoned the company and asked them to cancel my telephone immediately. They
said we can't do it immediately (trying to squeeze out of me another few
days or weeks.) so I phoned complaints and they did it then and there. Now I
use a mobile phone, buy a little card thing once in a while and don't have
to pay more than that. I should have done it years ago, blooming vultures.
Orly cancelled his too and uses same system. We don't need a telephone to
use our computers. Dial up is a massive rip off.
Skype sounds good, Ray.

How are you all?

None Technically Edith.

"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message
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> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:20:55 +0200, The Traveller wrote:
>
> > I'm terrified of telephones. They're my week spot.
>
> s/week/weak/
>
> I'm not terrified of 'em but I don't like 'em. Never had a 'phone when
> growing up, first 'phone I had access two was after moving out from
> the family home at 18. We kids (well my two sisters really) had to
> bully the parents into getting one after we had all left home.
>
> Nasty things, don't like 'em. Unfortunately a necessary evil in modern
> society.
>
> --
> Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
> Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail


two true ;
When we got our first phone, I was starled how noisy life could be. I lived
in a house on the outskirts, a cul de sac and it was so peaceful, like
living in the country in a small town. Then we got a phone and even when I
was out in the garden I found myself listening for the phone. It was nerve
renching.

Edith

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> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
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> >
> > I have always written songs, then Sleepy got me going on verse and now I
> > can't seem to stop. I think it's the paint. I'm a bit hyper today. my
son
> > phoned and said-coffee in town, now, at Sjsiden, it's your Grandchild's
> > birthday. I'd fogotten, so I jumped on me pushbike and cycled to town,
was
> > drenched by the time I got there to find the cafe packed and they didn't
> > have enough cups and stuff, so we walked farther down the road and found
a
> > nice quiet cafe in a hotel lounge. Errrrm, the point was, what with
three
> > hours of sniffing paint and all that coffee I'm all, like, me eyes are
big
> > round things and I have the accelerator at full blast on first gear.
It's
> > awful.
> >
> Junkie!
>
> ally


If this is how they feel, they have my sympathy.

Edith.

"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
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> >
> > how much does it cost to phone a normal person?
> >
>
> I don't know any normal people, or so Steve keeps telling me.
>
> ally


lol. That's probabley true. Oops1 Does that mean me?

Edith Secretphonenr.

"Ray Ingham"  wrote in message
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message
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> >
> > "Ray Ingham"  wrote in message
> > news:ZGTBe.49583$oJ.32972@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >>>
> >> Edith, My daughter has asked about Skype.  Our phone bills are
enormous.
> >> They are talking about taking it up in Brisbane.  When they were in
> >> England we used the MSM system quite a bit.  We had a slow connection
at
> >> the time and we occasionally used the webcam thingy but the pictures
were
> >> only alright.   But it meant we could keep in daily contact for nothing
> >> Ray
> > You are the very sort of family that Skype is perfect for. You should
set
> > it up at both ends at once and save huge amounts of money!
> >
> > ally
> One of our daughters is talking about moving to Vancouver and another
> thinking about going to Singapore for a few years.  It would be great to
> have kids that didn't move as often as ours.  Still it does give us a good
> excuse to visit them
> Ray


You are multi international people, Ray. I've never seen the likes. You are
never in one spot at a time, any of you. I think you are the true gypsies of
this group. For a la'al lad that started off on our block up at Salterbeck
you have all come a long long way. Good for you.I think your children have
the right idea.

Edith.

On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:48:42 +0200, The Traveller wrote:


> Now I use a mobile phone, buy a little card thing once in a while 
> and don't have to pay more than that.


Not sure I'd like to only have a mobile, they have a habit of not 
working just when you need them to. Anything from a simple flat 
battery, to the local cell site not having power and thus not working 
through to a small local crisis overloading the system.

The time of the Carlisle floods 2 of the 4 networks here where off for 

> 36 hours one was over two days. Lots of rather miffed locals who 

only have a mobile... And remember it wasn't particularly windy, it 
just rained (a lot), all we had apart from the rain was a 3 or 4 hour 
power cut. Mobile networks are not resilient, sneeze in the wrong 
direction and off they go.

-- 
Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail

"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message
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> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:48:42 +0200, The Traveller wrote:
>
> > Now I use a mobile phone, buy a little card thing once in a while
> > and don't have to pay more than that.
>
> Not sure I'd like to only have a mobile, they have a habit of not
> working just when you need them to. Anything from a simple flat
> battery, to the local cell site not having power and thus not working
> through to a small local crisis overloading the system.


I have never had those probs Dave, except for forgetting to load the batteri
once in a while.

>
> The time of the Carlisle floods 2 of the 4 networks here where off for
> > 36 hours one was over two days. Lots of rather miffed locals who
> only have a mobile... And remember it wasn't particularly windy, it
> just rained (a lot), all we had apart from the rain was a 3 or 4 hour
> power cut. Mobile networks are not resilient, sneeze in the wrong
> direction and off they go.
>
> --
> Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
> Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail


Those floods are still hurting people. It must have been a nightmare for
many.

Edith.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> I wouldn't dare. I'm all tough like on uklc but in reality I'm quite a shy
> person. You won't get me to speak unless I'm forced to. Orlando says 
> Skype,
> here demand a monthly payment and only if you are talking to someone else
> with Skype is it free-or summet. he has a small mic by his pc. I don't 
> want
> one. I don't want one.
>

Yeah, you can pay 10 Euros at a time, and this allows you to make calls to 
people with ordinary phones. You seem to get a lot of time for your money - 
certainly a lot more than you'd get with an ordinary phone, and especially 
if it's not a local call. You can call other people on the Skype network for 
free, but so far I only know one other person who's signed up (he was the 
one who recommended that I join) and since he only lives a couple of 
villages away, and we don't really talk to each other on the phone much, 
it's not going to save me much that way. My next job is to buy my son a wee 
mike for his computer (he's too skint to buy his own.... that's kids for 
you) so I can call him and we can talk all night for free if we want.

ally

"The Traveller"  wrote in message news:2n3Ce.60117>>


>> I don't know any normal people, or so Steve keeps telling me.
>>
>> ally
>
> lol. That's probabley true. Oops1 Does that mean me?
>


Yup.

ally

a l l y wrote:


> My granny got the first phone in our stair in Edinburgh, back in the 1940s, 
> after she'd caught a burglar in the flat. She chased him out with a big 
> stick and he ran off (she was a feisty lady, my granny) but she realised it 
> would have been very useful to have been able to phone the police, so she 
> got a telephone line put in. For many years it was the only phone in the 
> stair and even when I was little we'd get the occasional visit from a 
> neighbour asking politely if they could use the phone. They'd always leave 
> money - 4d, I think - beside it when they were done.
> 
> Despite all that, I hated the phone as a child. Sometimes when you picked it 
> up it made scary noises so I tried to avoid it.
> 
> However, I have grown up now. Phones are just another communication tool: 
> and where would I be without my trusty mobile?
> 
> ally 
> 
> 

We found you on the Skype search, Ally! It's 9:25m here, so, we didn't 
expect you to be up (2:25am UK) and we were using MrP's notebook at the 
time, which doesn't have a mike, or we'd have left a "Hello!" message. 
I've been scrambling round for the "hands free" kits from our mobiles.

Mr P  had never heard of Skype until I told him tonight, and was 
initially un-impressed, but has had great fun this evening.

My mobile phone is the most useful machine since my automatic washing 
machine.  I love them both.

Jp

> We found you on the Skype search, Ally! It's 9:25m here, so, we didn't
> expect you to be up (2:25am UK) and we were using MrP's notebook at the 
> time, which doesn't have a mike, or we'd have left a "Hello!" message. 
> I've been scrambling round for the "hands free" kits from our mobiles.
>
> Mr P  had never heard of Skype until I told him tonight, and was initially 
> un-impressed, but has had great fun this evening.
>
> My mobile phone is the most useful machine since my automatic washing 
> machine.  I love them both.
>
> Jp


my dishwasher. I love it.  Who could ask for anything more perfect?  My 
mobile is OK, I even have a real in the car phone with microphone at work 
but my dishwasher has to be the most useful machine out there.  If Skype is 
all that I just have to check it out.

Tania

"Jpinny"  wrote in message
news:RuiCe.142322$mx5.33449@fe08.lga...

> a l l y wrote:
>
> > My granny got the first phone in our stair in Edinburgh, back in the
1940s,
> > after she'd caught a burglar in the flat. She chased him out with a big
> > stick and he ran off (she was a feisty lady, my granny) but she realised
it
> > would have been very useful to have been able to phone the police, so
she
> > got a telephone line put in. For many years it was the only phone in the
> > stair and even when I was little we'd get the occasional visit from a
> > neighbour asking politely if they could use the phone. They'd always
leave
> > money - 4d, I think - beside it when they were done.
> >
> > Despite all that, I hated the phone as a child. Sometimes when you
picked it
> > up it made scary noises so I tried to avoid it.
> >
> > However, I have grown up now. Phones are just another communication
tool:
> > and where would I be without my trusty mobile?
> >
> > ally
> >
> >
> We found you on the Skype search, Ally! It's 9:25m here, so, we didn't
> expect you to be up (2:25am UK) and we were using MrP's notebook at the
> time, which doesn't have a mike, or we'd have left a "Hello!" message.
> I've been scrambling round for the "hands free" kits from our mobiles.
>
> Mr P  had never heard of Skype until I told him tonight, and was
> initially un-impressed, but has had great fun this evening.
>
> My mobile phone is the most useful machine since my automatic washing
> machine.  I love them both.
>
> Jp


I can go for long walks now without being afraid of not being able to phone
someone if I get into difficulty. My children gave me the first one and Orly
a smaller one later. We all have several between us that we don't use
anymore.

Edith.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Jpinny"  wrote in message
> news:RuiCe.142322$mx5.33449@fe08.lga...
>> a l l y wrote:
>>
>> > My granny got the first phone in our stair in Edinburgh, back in the
> 1940s,
>> > after she'd caught a burglar in the flat. She chased him out with a big
>> > stick and he ran off (she was a feisty lady, my granny) but she 
>> > realised
> it
>> > would have been very useful to have been able to phone the police, so
> she
>> > got a telephone line put in. For many years it was the only phone in 
>> > the
>> > stair and even when I was little we'd get the occasional visit from a
>> > neighbour asking politely if they could use the phone. They'd always
> leave
>> > money - 4d, I think - beside it when they were done.
>> >
>> > Despite all that, I hated the phone as a child. Sometimes when you
> picked it
>> > up it made scary noises so I tried to avoid it.
>> >
>> > However, I have grown up now. Phones are just another communication
> tool:
>> > and where would I be without my trusty mobile?
>> >
>> > ally
>> >
>> >
>> We found you on the Skype search, Ally! It's 9:25m here, so, we didn't
>> expect you to be up (2:25am UK) and we were using MrP's notebook at the
>> time, which doesn't have a mike, or we'd have left a "Hello!" message.
>> I've been scrambling round for the "hands free" kits from our mobiles.
>>
>> Mr P  had never heard of Skype until I told him tonight, and was
>> initially un-impressed, but has had great fun this evening.
>>
>> My mobile phone is the most useful machine since my automatic washing
>> machine.  I love them both.
>>
>> Jp
>
> I can go for long walks now without being afraid of not being able to 
> phone
> someone if I get into difficulty. My children gave me the first one and 
> Orly
> a smaller one later. We all have several between us that we don't use
> anymore.
>
> Edith.
>
>When we lived in WetherRiggs Road there was someone over the other side of 
>the oval had the phone on.  Can't remember their name.  I think everyone in 
>Salterbeck used their phone.  Do you remember that Edith? 

"Jpinny"  wrote in message 
news:RuiCe.142322$mx5.33449@fe08.lga...

>>
>>
> We found you on the Skype search, Ally! It's 9:25m here, so, we didn't 
> expect you to be up (2:25am UK) and we were using MrP's notebook at the 
> time, which doesn't have a mike, or we'd have left a "Hello!" message. 
> I've been scrambling round for the "hands free" kits from our mobiles.
>
> Mr P  had never heard of Skype until I told him tonight, and was initially 
> un-impressed, but has had great fun this evening.


You see? It's good, isn't it?

ally

"Ray Ingham"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
> news:QZnCe.60529$Fe7.198963@news000.worldonline.dk...
> >
> > "Jpinny"  wrote in message
> > news:RuiCe.142322$mx5.33449@fe08.lga...
> >> a l l y wrote:
> >>
> >> > My granny got the first phone in our stair in Edinburgh, back in the
> > 1940s,
> >> > after she'd caught a burglar in the flat. She chased him out with a
big
> >> > stick and he ran off (she was a feisty lady, my granny) but she
> >> > realised
> > it
> >> > would have been very useful to have been able to phone the police, so
> > she
> >> > got a telephone line put in. For many years it was the only phone in
> >> > the
> >> > stair and even when I was little we'd get the occasional visit from a
> >> > neighbour asking politely if they could use the phone. They'd always
> > leave
> >> > money - 4d, I think - beside it when they were done.
> >> >
> >> > Despite all that, I hated the phone as a child. Sometimes when you
> > picked it
> >> > up it made scary noises so I tried to avoid it.
> >> >
> >> > However, I have grown up now. Phones are just another communication
> > tool:
> >> > and where would I be without my trusty mobile?
> >> >
> >> > ally
> >> >
> >> >
> >> We found you on the Skype search, Ally! It's 9:25m here, so, we didn't
> >> expect you to be up (2:25am UK) and we were using MrP's notebook at the
> >> time, which doesn't have a mike, or we'd have left a "Hello!" message.
> >> I've been scrambling round for the "hands free" kits from our mobiles.
> >>
> >> Mr P  had never heard of Skype until I told him tonight, and was
> >> initially un-impressed, but has had great fun this evening.
> >>
> >> My mobile phone is the most useful machine since my automatic washing
> >> machine.  I love them both.
> >>
> >> Jp
> >
> > I can go for long walks now without being afraid of not being able to
> > phone
> > someone if I get into difficulty. My children gave me the first one and
> > Orly
> > a smaller one later. We all have several between us that we don't use
> > anymore.
> >
> > Edith.
> >
> >When we lived in WetherRiggs Road there was someone over the other side
of
> >the oval had the phone on.  Can't remember their name.  I think everyone
in
> >Salterbeck used their phone.  Do you remember that Edith?
>

Hello Ray. It could have been the optician Mr. Tate across the road. I only
went there when I smelled his (woman) baking biscuits-help, they were
scrumptious. Or it could have been our next door neighbour Mr. Wright who
was an Insurance man, or it could have been Mrs.Armstrong, a teacher, or it
could have been Mr. Simpson. The rest of us wuz blu88y poor. We med our own
phones wid empty toilet rolls and a bit o string. Huh! There wuz nowt we
didn't have in those days.

Edith.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message news:9ttCe.60654>>

> Hello Ray. It could have been the optician Mr. Tate across the road. I 
> only
> went there when I smelled his (woman) baking biscuits-help, they were
> scrumptious. Or it could have been our next door neighbour Mr. Wright who
> was an Insurance man, or it could have been Mrs.Armstrong, a teacher, or 
> it
> could have been Mr. Simpson. The rest of us wuz blu88y poor. We med our 
> own
> phones wid empty toilet rolls and a bit o string. Huh! There wuz nowt we
> didn't have in those days.
>

I'm surprised you had toilet rolls! I didn't think they'd invented them back 
then: didn't they still use that hard toilet paper that came in wee square 
packets? We had it in the school bogs. If we needed a piece of tracing paper 
we'd use a slice of toilet paper: it was also great with a comb for making a 
home-made kazoo. In fact it was useful for just about everything apart from 
wiping your bum....

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message 
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message news:9ttCe.60654>>
>> Hello Ray. It could have been the optician Mr. Tate across the road. I 
>> only
>> went there when I smelled his (woman) baking biscuits-help, they were
>> scrumptious. Or it could have been our next door neighbour Mr. Wright who
>> was an Insurance man, or it could have been Mrs.Armstrong, a teacher, or 
>> it
>> could have been Mr. Simpson. The rest of us wuz blu88y poor. We med our 
>> own
>> phones wid empty toilet rolls and a bit o string. Huh! There wuz nowt we
>> didn't have in those days.
>>
> I'm surprised you had toilet rolls! I didn't think they'd invented them 
> back then: didn't they still use that hard toilet paper that came in wee 
> square packets? We had it in the school bogs. If we needed a piece of 
> tracing paper we'd use a slice of toilet paper: it was also great with a 
> comb for making a home-made kazoo. In fact it was useful for just about 
> everything apart from wiping your bum....
>
> ally


We were too poor to wipe our bums weren't we Edith?
Ray

"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message news:9ttCe.60654>>
> > Hello Ray. It could have been the optician Mr. Tate across the road. I
> > only
> > went there when I smelled his (woman) baking biscuits-help, they were
> > scrumptious. Or it could have been our next door neighbour Mr. Wright
who
> > was an Insurance man, or it could have been Mrs.Armstrong, a teacher, or
> > it
> > could have been Mr. Simpson. The rest of us wuz blu88y poor. We med our
> > own
> > phones wid empty toilet rolls and a bit o string. Huh! There wuz nowt we
> > didn't have in those days.
> >
> I'm surprised you had toilet rolls! I didn't think they'd invented them
back
> then: didn't they still use that hard toilet paper that came in wee square
> packets? We had it in the school bogs. If we needed a piece of tracing
paper
> we'd use a slice of toilet paper: it was also great with a comb for making
a
> home-made kazoo. In fact it was useful for just about everything apart
from
> wiping your bum....
>
> ally


It wuz afar that teim, Ally. Me Mam used tuh cut squares o newspaper, thread
them on a bit o string and hang them on a nail in't closet. better than
tracing paper but no good fer't comb kazoos. Yed end oop wid't Evening Star
printed all ovver yer arse.

Edith Speaketh not wid a Forked Tongue.

"Ray Ingham"  wrote in message
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message
> news:3k04gdFq17nfU1@individual.net...
> >
> > "The Traveller"  wrote in message news:9ttCe.60654>>
> >> Hello Ray. It could have been the optician Mr. Tate across the road. I
> >> only
> >> went there when I smelled his (woman) baking biscuits-help, they were
> >> scrumptious. Or it could have been our next door neighbour Mr. Wright
who
> >> was an Insurance man, or it could have been Mrs.Armstrong, a teacher,
or
> >> it
> >> could have been Mr. Simpson. The rest of us wuz blu88y poor. We med our
> >> own
> >> phones wid empty toilet rolls and a bit o string. Huh! There wuz nowt
we
> >> didn't have in those days.
> >>
> > I'm surprised you had toilet rolls! I didn't think they'd invented them
> > back then: didn't they still use that hard toilet paper that came in wee
> > square packets? We had it in the school bogs. If we needed a piece of
> > tracing paper we'd use a slice of toilet paper: it was also great with a
> > comb for making a home-made kazoo. In fact it was useful for just about
> > everything apart from wiping your bum....
> >
> > ally
>
> We were too poor to wipe our bums weren't we Edith?
> Ray
>

Yes, Ray. There was one car on't block and that was that Insurance fella.
Newspapers came in handy. We made soles for our shoes with them,wiped our
bum, started a blaze going in't fire place, war them under out coats to go
biking, lay them under carpets, made paper mash, blew our nose in them and
wrapped our chips in them etc etc.

Edith went hungry sometimes.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Ray Ingham"  wrote in message
> news:XPCCe.51456$oJ.50081@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "a l l y"  wrote in message
>> news:3k04gdFq17nfU1@individual.net...
>> >
>> > "The Traveller"  wrote in message news:9ttCe.60654>>
>> >> Hello Ray. It could have been the optician Mr. Tate across the road. I
>> >> only
>> >> went there when I smelled his (woman) baking biscuits-help, they were
>> >> scrumptious. Or it could have been our next door neighbour Mr. Wright
> who
>> >> was an Insurance man, or it could have been Mrs.Armstrong, a teacher,
> or
>> >> it
>> >> could have been Mr. Simpson. The rest of us wuz blu88y poor. We med 
>> >> our
>> >> own
>> >> phones wid empty toilet rolls and a bit o string. Huh! There wuz nowt
> we
>> >> didn't have in those days.
>> >>
>> > I'm surprised you had toilet rolls! I didn't think they'd invented them
>> > back then: didn't they still use that hard toilet paper that came in 
>> > wee
>> > square packets? We had it in the school bogs. If we needed a piece of
>> > tracing paper we'd use a slice of toilet paper: it was also great with 
>> > a
>> > comb for making a home-made kazoo. In fact it was useful for just about
>> > everything apart from wiping your bum....
>> >
>> > ally
>>
>> We were too poor to wipe our bums weren't we Edith?
>> Ray
>>
> Yes, Ray. There was one car on't block and that was that Insurance fella.
> Newspapers came in handy. We made soles for our shoes with them,wiped our
> bum, started a blaze going in't fire place, war them under out coats to go
> biking, lay them under carpets, made paper mash, blew our nose in them and
> wrapped our chips in them etc etc.
>
> Edith went hungry sometimes.
>
>

My mum and dad had a motorbike and sidecar.  Looked a bit like George and 
Mildred.
Ray

"Ray Ingham"  wrote in message
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> > Yes, Ray. There was one car on't block and that was that Insurance
fella.
> > Newspapers came in handy. We made soles for our shoes with them,wiped
our
> > bum, started a blaze going in't fire place, wore them under our coats to
go
> > biking, lay them under carpets, made paper mash, blew our nose in them
and
> > wrapped our chips in them etc etc. Had them in trilbies to make them

smaller - any more?

> >
> > Edith went hungry sometimes.
> >
> >
> My mum and dad had a motorbike and sidecar.  Looked a bit like George and
> Mildred.
> Ray


:0) My uncle Lesley who lived at Pardshaw had a bike and side car too. Once
he came over for us, five people. Two on the back and 3 in the side car
chugging along those country lanes. That's when all these laws didn't last
you down and people cared for each other. You can't spit here without
sending in an application. I doubt they'd let you wipe yer backside on a
news paper either for fear of you clogging up the drains with Aftepoften

Edith.

On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:35:10 +0200, The Traveller wrote:


>> Not sure I'd like to only have a mobile, they have a habit of not
>> working just when you need them to. Anything from a simple flat
>> battery, to the local cell site not having power and thus not 
>> working through to a small local crisis overloading the system.
> 
> I have never had those probs Dave, except for forgetting to load the 
> batteri once in a while.


Has there ever been a "small local crisis" or power interuptions at 
your local cell site? Mobile are just about useable(*) when they work 
but reliable they ain't.


>> The time of the Carlisle floods ...
> 
> Those floods are still hurting people. It must have been a nightmare 
> for many.


Most of the affected houses along Warwick Road are still not being 
lived in. According to recent stories in the News & Star (see their 
site) some have yet to have work start. Others are having to do battle 
with insurance companies to get any money, with others the insurers 
appointed non-local builders and there is trouble there.

Reductions in council tax are about now and renovation grants to bring 
places up to a standard, (double glazing, central heating etc). Hey 
hang on mo why should the flood victims get that? They have insurance 
and where happy enough before the flood without DG and CH. What about 
all the other low quality housing stock that is about that didn't get 
flooded?

As I said back then being flooded is not fun. 6 months minimum out of 
your home whilst pretty much everything that got wet, bar the walls, 
is replaced. Plaster, floors, doors and frames, skirtings, all 
electrics and all the decoration/furnishing of course. Live on a flood 
plain, expect to get flooded...

(*) The delay and sound quality irks me.

-- 
Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail

"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message
news:nyyfbegfubjuvyypbz.ijsvuv1.pminews@news.howhill.com...

> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:35:10 +0200, The Traveller wrote:
>
> >> Not sure I'd like to only have a mobile, they have a habit of not
> >> working just when you need them to. Anything from a simple flat
> >> battery, to the local cell site not having power and thus not
> >> working through to a small local crisis overloading the system.
> >
> > I have never had those probs Dave, except for forgetting to load the
> > batteri once in a while.
>
> Has there ever been a "small local crisis" or power interuptions at
> your local cell site? Mobile are just about useable(*) when they work
> but reliable they ain't.


The only trouble I have had was when someone would phone me up at Smithy
Cottage in Portinscale. The walls are so thick the sinal got chopped up.

>
> >> The time of the Carlisle floods ...
> >
> > Those floods are still hurting people. It must have been a nightmare
> > for many.
>
> Most of the affected houses along Warwick Road are still not being
> lived in. According to recent stories in the News & Star (see their
> site) some have yet to have work start. Others are having to do battle
> with insurance companies to get any money, with others the insurers
> appointed non-local builders and there is trouble there.


Insurance-It's all a maffia skam. I'm was forced to have insurance to be
able to get a mortgage.

>
> Reductions in council tax are about now and renovation grants to bring
> places up to a standard, (double glazing, central heating etc). Hey
> hang on mo why should the flood victims get that? They have insurance
> and were happy enough before the flood without DG and CH. What about
> all the other low quality housing stock that is about that didn't get
> flooded?

Dream on.
>
> As I said back then being flooded is not fun. 6 months minimum out of
> your home whilst pretty much everything that got wet, bar the walls,
> is replaced. Plaster, floors, doors and frames, skirtings, all
> electrics and all the decoration/furnishing of course. Live on a flood
> plain, expect to get flooded...
>
> (*) The delay and sound quality irks me.
>
> --
> Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
> Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail


Who would expect a whole town to be flooded. Something must be done. Build
walls? Ask Holland for advise. Tell 'them' to put the rainforests back. I'll
be under water if the North Pole melts. I'm only 2-3 hundred meters from the
shore line.

Edith Sandbag.

a l l y wrote:


>>
> 
> I'm surprised you had toilet rolls! I didn't think they'd invented them back 
> then: didn't they still use that hard toilet paper that came in wee square 
> packets? We had it in the school bogs. If we needed a piece of tracing paper 
> we'd use a slice of toilet paper: it was also great with a comb for making a 
> home-made kazoo. In fact it was useful for just about everything apart from 
> wiping your bum....
> 
> ally 
> 
> 

You could buy Izal on a roll. I remember my godmother having a choice of 
  Izal on a roll or a box of 'soft' tissue. I always wondered why the 
Izal was regarded as "hygeinic", when it was anything but. I actually 
grew up with Bowater-Scott's Hotel & Caterers' soft loo paper. Very de 
luxe. The last time I saw that hard loo paper was in the DHSS, and it 
had "Government Property" printed on it.

Jp

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:30:23 +0200, The Traveller wrote:


> I'm was forced to have insurance to be able to get a mortgage.


Of course, the mortgage company don't want to really risk their money. 
How ever forcing you to buy *their* insurance is another matter, 
provided you can show you have suitable insurance they ought to be 
happy and possibly and a clause that such insurance will be maintained 
if not it's your risk not theirs. Bit of an incentive to keep it up...


> Who would expect a whole town to be flooded. 


The whole town wasn't take a peek at the Enviroment Agency flood risk 
map.

http://maps.environment-agency.gov.uk/wiyby/mapController

You'll have to click to zoom in to Carlisle.


> Something must be done. 


Don't build on flood plains...


> Build walls? 


How high do you build 'em? For the 10 year flood, the 50, the 200? 
Personally I feel about 50 years is about the right level. Otherwise 
you are going to be spending an awful lot of money that may not get 
any use before you need to replace the structures due to normal decay.

-- 
Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail

"The Traveller"  wrote in message news:VpHCe.60771>>

> Yes, Ray. There was one car on't block and that was that Insurance fella.
> Newspapers came in handy. We made soles for our shoes with them,wiped our
> bum, started a blaze going in't fire place, war them under out coats to go
> biking, lay them under carpets, made paper mash, blew our nose in them and
> wrapped our chips in them etc etc.
>
> Edith went hungry sometimes.
>

I guess we must have been posh, then. We actually bought newspapers to read.

ally-not-ashamed

"The Traveller"  wrote in message news:WiHCe.60769>

> It wuz afar that teim, Ally. Me Mam used tuh cut squares o newspaper, 
> thread
> them on a bit o string and hang them on a nail in't closet. better than
> tracing paper but no good fer't comb kazoos. Yed end oop wid't Evening 
> Star
> printed all ovver yer arse.
>

Yup, I remember people using newspaper. Must have been frustrating if you 
were sitting there, trying to read these little squares while you did your 
business, and all the articles would be chopped up into wee bits.

ally

"Jpinny"  wrote in message 
news:DYMCe.102$SJ6.60@fe11.lga...

>>
>>
> You could buy Izal on a roll. I remember my godmother having a choice of 
> Izal on a roll or a box of 'soft' tissue. I always wondered why the Izal 
> was regarded as "hygeinic", when it was anything but. I actually grew up 
> with Bowater-Scott's Hotel & Caterers' soft loo paper. Very de luxe. The 
> last time I saw that hard loo paper was in the DHSS, and it had 
> "Government Property" printed on it.
>

Yes! I remember those rolls of Izal. You'd buy just one roll at a time. 
People must have been a lot more frugal with it, than we are today, with our 
huge multipacks of Andrex.

ally

"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message
news:nyyfbegfubjuvyypbz.iju4rq2.pminews@news.howhill.com...

> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:30:23 +0200, The Traveller wrote:
>
> > I'm was forced to have insurance to be able to get a mortgage.
>
> Of course, the mortgage company don't want to really risk their money.
> How ever forcing you to buy *their* insurance is another matter,
> provided you can show you have suitable insurance they ought to be
> happy and possibly and a clause that such insurance will be maintained
> if not it's your risk not theirs. Bit of an incentive to keep it up...
>
> > Who would expect a whole town to be flooded.
>
> The whole town wasn't take a peek at the Enviroment Agency flood risk
> map.
>
> http://maps.environment-agency.gov.uk/wiyby/mapController
>
> You'll have to click to zoom in to Carlisle.
>
> > Something must be done.
>
> Don't build on flood plains...
>
> > Build walls?
>
> How high do you build 'em? For the 10 year flood, the 50, the 200?
> Personally I feel about 50 years is about the right level. Otherwise
> you are going to be spending an awful lot of money that may not get
> any use before you need to replace the structures due to normal decay.
>
> --
> Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
> Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail


I see. There's no answer then, Dave. It's up roots and move for many people.

Edith thinks of West Walls.

"a l l y"  wrote in message
news:3k21hhFsdd21U1@individual.net...

>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message news:VpHCe.60771>>
> > Yes, Ray. There was one car on't block and that was that Insurance
fella.
> > Newspapers came in handy. We made soles for our shoes with them,wiped
our
> > bum, started a blaze going in't fire place, war them under out coats to
go
> > biking, lay them under carpets, made paper mash, blew our nose in them
and
> > wrapped our chips in them etc etc.
> >
> > Edith went hungry sometimes.
> >
> I guess we must have been posh, then. We actually bought newspapers to
read.
>
> ally-not-ashamed


We were richer. We had a radio.

Edith much richer.

a l l y wrote:

> "Jpinny"  wrote in message 
> news:DYMCe.102$SJ6.60@fe11.lga...
> 
>>>
>>You could buy Izal on a roll. I remember my godmother having a choice of 
>>Izal on a roll or a box of 'soft' tissue. I always wondered why the Izal 
>>was regarded as "hygeinic", when it was anything but. I actually grew up 
>>with Bowater-Scott's Hotel & Caterers' soft loo paper. Very de luxe. The 
>>last time I saw that hard loo paper was in the DHSS, and it had 
>>"Government Property" printed on it.
>>
> 
> Yes! I remember those rolls of Izal. You'd buy just one roll at a time. 
> People must have been a lot more frugal with it, than we are today, with our 
> huge multipacks of Andrex.
> 
> ally 
> 
> 

Plenty of folks in the USA buy single rolls of Marcal or Scott (American 
Andrex), although you can, of course buy the familiar multipacks. It's 
curious in the land o'plenty. Perhaps folks find it embarrassing.

I used to buy that one made of recycled paper. (?Nouvelle? Yes, I'm sure 
it was Nouvelle!) Can't remember the name,  but they did a blush pink 
colour which matched my peach bathroom suite perfectly. Andrex and the 
others used to be too orangey.

Jp

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:01:51 +0200, The Traveller wrote:


> I see. There's no answer then, Dave. It's up roots and move for many 
> people.


Or be prepared to act when the 50 year flood comes and accept the 
consequences, that is what insurance is (partly) for. I'm afraid I 
have little sympathy for those living next rivers or on flood plains 
or on the coast that whinge when they get flooded by a 50 year flood 
or complain that the "powers that be" haven't done enough to protect 
them. As for living on a flood plain without insurance well I ask you 
how dumb can you get?

We have insurance. This place has stood for the best part of 300 
years, I don't think it's going to fall down, I don't think it'll blow 
down (it might loose a roof though), the only real risks I can fore 
see are fire and a low flying plane crashing into it. All are fairly 
low probabilities IMHO but we still have insurance.

-- 
Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message
> news:3k21hhFsdd21U1@individual.net...
>>
>> "The Traveller"  wrote in message news:VpHCe.60771>>
>> > Yes, Ray. There was one car on't block and that was that Insurance
> fella.
>> > Newspapers came in handy. We made soles for our shoes with them,wiped
> our
>> > bum, started a blaze going in't fire place, war them under out coats to
> go
>> > biking, lay them under carpets, made paper mash, blew our nose in them
> and
>> > wrapped our chips in them etc etc.
>> >
>> > Edith went hungry sometimes.
>> >
>> I guess we must have been posh, then. We actually bought newspapers to
> read.
>>
>> ally-not-ashamed
>
> We were richer. We had a radio.
>
> Edith much richer.
>
>

We had a radio and dad had to take the battery from it every now and again 
and take it to the garage to be charged up
Ray

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
news:FeSCe.60838$Fe7.199587@news000.worldonline.dk...

>> >
>> I guess we must have been posh, then. We actually bought newspapers to
> read.
>>
>> ally-not-ashamed
>
> We were richer. We had a radio.
>
> Edith much richer.
>

We had 2 radios. Beat that.

ally

"Ray Ingham"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
> news:FeSCe.60838$Fe7.199587@news000.worldonline.dk...
> >
> > "a l l y"  wrote in message
> > news:3k21hhFsdd21U1@individual.net...
> >>
> >> "The Traveller"  wrote in message news:VpHCe.60771>>
> >> > Yes, Ray. There was one car on't block and that was that Insurance
> > fella.
> >> > Newspapers came in handy. We made soles for our shoes with them,wiped
> > our
> >> > bum, started a blaze going in't fire place, war them under out coats
to
> > go
> >> > biking, lay them under carpets, made paper mash, blew our nose in
them
> > and
> >> > wrapped our chips in them etc etc.
> >> >
> >> > Edith went hungry sometimes.
> >> >
> >> I guess we must have been posh, then. We actually bought newspapers to
> > read.
> >>
> >> ally-not-ashamed
> >
> > We were richer. We had a radio.
> >
> > Edith much richer.
> >
> >
> We had a radio and dad had to take the battery from it every now and again
> and take it to the garage to be charged up
> Ray


That's sweet. We were better than your lot. We had electricity, huh! I seem
to remember meeting you and your Mam at the top end of Wetheriggs road,
nearer The Oval. You sat on the side of the pavement on a wall or dyke while
your mam and mine talked. I remember your Mam had a whitish dress and very
high heal shoes and she was more stilish than the other women on the block.
Taller too.You didn't say a word. Could that be possible?

Edith Maybedreaming again.

"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message
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> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:01:51 +0200, The Traveller wrote:
>
> > I see. There's no answer then, Dave. It's up roots and move for many
> > people.
>
> Or be prepared to act when the 50 year flood comes and accept the
> consequences, that is what insurance is (partly) for. I'm afraid I
> have little sympathy for those living next rivers or on flood plains
> or on the coast that whinge when they get flooded by a 50 year flood
> or complain that the "powers that be" haven't done enough to protect
> them. As for living on a flood plain without insurance well I ask you
> how dumb can you get?
>
> We have insurance. This place has stood for the best part of 300
> years, I don't think it's going to fall down, I don't think it'll blow
> down (it might loose a roof though), the only real risks I can fore
> see are fire and a low flying plane crashing into it. All are fairly
> low probabilities IMHO but we still have insurance.
>
> --
> Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
> Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail


I understand your feelings on the subject. However, like me Mam said,
"Beggers can't be choosers."

Edith chose 4th floor just incase.

"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
> news:FeSCe.60838$Fe7.199587@news000.worldonline.dk...
> >> >
> >> I guess we must have been posh, then. We actually bought newspapers to
> > read.
> >>
> >> ally-not-ashamed
> >
> > We were richer. We had a radio.
> >
> > Edith much richer.
> >
> We had 2 radios. Beat that.
>
> ally


We had the first TV on our row. Beat that!

Edith sat on the floor with all the kids. (btw. It was a great big box)

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Ray Ingham"  wrote in message
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>>
>> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
>> news:FeSCe.60838$Fe7.199587@news000.worldonline.dk...
>> >
>> > "a l l y"  wrote in message
>> > news:3k21hhFsdd21U1@individual.net...
>> >>
>> >> "The Traveller"  wrote in message news:VpHCe.60771>>
>> >> > Yes, Ray. There was one car on't block and that was that Insurance
>> > fella.
>> >> > Newspapers came in handy. We made soles for our shoes with 
>> >> > them,wiped
>> > our
>> >> > bum, started a blaze going in't fire place, war them under out coats
> to
>> > go
>> >> > biking, lay them under carpets, made paper mash, blew our nose in
> them
>> > and
>> >> > wrapped our chips in them etc etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > Edith went hungry sometimes.
>> >> >
>> >> I guess we must have been posh, then. We actually bought newspapers to
>> > read.
>> >>
>> >> ally-not-ashamed
>> >
>> > We were richer. We had a radio.
>> >
>> > Edith much richer.
>> >
>> >
>> We had a radio and dad had to take the battery from it every now and 
>> again
>> and take it to the garage to be charged up
>> Ray
>
> That's sweet. We were better than your lot. We had electricity, huh! I 
> seem
> to remember meeting you and your Mam at the top end of Wetheriggs road,
> nearer The Oval. You sat on the side of the pavement on a wall or dyke 
> while
> your mam and mine talked. I remember your Mam had a whitish dress and very
> high heal shoes and she was more stilish than the other women on the 
> block.
> Taller too.You didn't say a word. Could that be possible?
>
> Edith Maybedreaming again.
>

Could be, can't remember.  We didn't have electricity but we had gas for 
cooking and lights.  We must have been poorer than you Edith.
BTW the verandah looks good!!  also, hope you don't mind, I gave Reggie your 
email address.
Ray

> the only real risks I can fore see are fire and a low
> flying plane crashing into it.


Well Dave, here's hoping you're not in it at the time so you can 
collect!

Johnny-heads-up

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"Ray Ingham"  wrote in message
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> Could be, can't remember.  We didn't have electricity but we had gas for
> cooking and lights.  We must have been poorer than you Edith.
> BTW the verandah looks good!!  also, hope you don't mind, I gave Reggie
your
> email address.
> Ray


We had only gas too, Ray. The gas lights on the walls used to hiss and make
strange noises and cast shadows along the walls-eerie. Scarey. We probably
had electric put in after you left. We were all in the same boat in those
days. A lot of water has flown under the bridge since then, hey.

How are you?

Edith.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message
> news:3k2pceFsa28jU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
>> news:FeSCe.60838$Fe7.199587@news000.worldonline.dk...
>> >> >
>> >> I guess we must have been posh, then. We actually bought newspapers to
>> > read.
>> >>
>> >> ally-not-ashamed
>> >
>> > We were richer. We had a radio.
>> >
>> > Edith much richer.
>> >
>> We had 2 radios. Beat that.
>>
>> ally
>
> We had the first TV on our row. Beat that!
>
> Edith sat on the floor with all the kids. (btw. It was a great big box)
>

I already beat you with the first phone (in 1947 - before I was born) but we 
were also the first flat to have electricity put in (in 1927 - I still have 
my granny's receipt from the electrician who did the job). My mum and her 
sister, when they were quite young, went to the electrical shop down the 
road (Mr Watt - great name for an electric shop owner) and bought the 
components to build a crystal radio set.

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
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> >
> > "a l l y"  wrote in message
> > news:3k2pceFsa28jU1@individual.net...
> >>
> >> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
> >> news:FeSCe.60838$Fe7.199587@news000.worldonline.dk...
> >> >> >
> >> >> I guess we must have been posh, then. We actually bought newspapers
to
> >> > read.
> >> >>
> >> >> ally-not-ashamed
> >> >
> >> > We were richer. We had a radio.
> >> >
> >> > Edith much richer.
> >> >
> >> We had 2 radios. Beat that.
> >>
> >> ally
> >
> > We had the first TV on our row. Beat that!
> >
> > Edith sat on the floor with all the kids. (btw. It was a great big box)
> >
> I already beat you with the first phone (in 1947 - before I was born) but
we
> were also the first flat to have electricity put in (in 1927 - I still
have
> my granny's receipt from the electrician who did the job). My mum and her
> sister, when they were quite young, went to the electrical shop down the
> road (Mr Watt - great name for an electric shop owner) and bought the
> components to build a crystal radio set.
>
> ally


I bet you at being born. I was four then.

Edith Betya.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>> >
>> > Edith sat on the floor with all the kids. (btw. It was a great big box)
>> >
>> I already beat you with the first phone (in 1947 - before I was born) but
> we
>> were also the first flat to have electricity put in (in 1927 - I still
> have
>> my granny's receipt from the electrician who did the job). My mum and her
>> sister, when they were quite young, went to the electrical shop down the
>> road (Mr Watt - great name for an electric shop owner) and bought the
>> components to build a crystal radio set.
>>
>> ally
>
> I bet you at being born. I was four then.
>

You were four when? Oh, right, 1947. Not when I was born. You were quite a 
bit older when I was born. You could have taken me out in my pram.