I have bought a 02 picasso, with only one key. Citroen want silly money to
obtain the key & transponder number, cut the key & reprogram the car. Is
there any way of doing this cheaper? I heard that keys can be cloned.  BTW I
am based in Leicester.

>I have bought a 02 picasso, with only one key. Citroen want silly money to
> obtain the key & transponder number, cut the key & reprogram the car. Is
> there any way of doing this cheaper? I heard that keys can be cloned.  BTW 
> I
> am based in Leicester.


Yeah, I should imagine keys can be cloned.  If they can perfect a technique 
for Dolly the Sheep, it should work on anything :-)

Peter

"Dave Griffs" <dr.clayton(no spam)@talk21.com> wrote in message 
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>I have bought a 02 picasso, with only one key. Citroen want silly money to
> obtain the key & transponder number, cut the key & reprogram the car. Is
> there any way of doing this cheaper? I heard that keys can be cloned.  BTW 
> I
> am based in Leicester.




Ask your local car thief.

On 15/07/2005 11:30 AstraVanMan wrote:


>>I have bought a 02 picasso, with only one key. Citroen want silly money to
>> obtain the key & transponder number, cut the key & reprogram the car. Is
>> there any way of doing this cheaper? I heard that keys can be cloned.  BTW 
>> I
>> am based in Leicester.
> 
> Yeah, I should imagine keys can be cloned.  If they can perfect a technique 
> for Dolly the Sheep, it should work on anything :-)
> 


But Dolly was white, not khaki :)

OK, I'll get me coat

Parish

gazzafield wrote:

> "Dave Griffs" <dr.clayton(no spam)@talk21.com> wrote in message 
> news:74MBe.3596$vz5.679@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> 
>>I have bought a 02 picasso, with only one key. Citroen want silly money to
>>obtain the key & transponder number, cut the key & reprogram the car. Is
>>there any way of doing this cheaper? I heard that keys can be cloned.  BTW 
>>I
>>am based in Leicester.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ask your local car thief. 
> 
> 


Or a locksmith

"Dave Griffs" <dr.clayton(no spam)@talk21.com> wrote in message
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> I have bought a 02 picasso, with only one key.


Well you are a bloody idiot for not insisting a 2nd and 3rd key were
provided FOC by the garage as part of the deal.

Tim..

Tim.. wrote:


> 
> "Dave Griffs" <dr.clayton(no spam)@talk21.com> wrote in message
> news:74MBe.3596$vz5.679@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>> I have bought a 02 picasso, with only one key.
> 
> Well you are a bloody idiot for not insisting a 2nd and 3rd key were
> provided FOC by the garage as part of the deal.
> 
> Tim..


Technically correct but a bit harsh Tim :-)

Chris

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"Chris Whelan"  wrote in message
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> Tim.. wrote:
>
> >
> > "Dave Griffs" <dr.clayton(no spam)@talk21.com> wrote in message
> > news:74MBe.3596$vz5.679@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> >> I have bought a 02 picasso, with only one key.
> >
> > Well you are a bloody idiot for not insisting a 2nd and 3rd key were
> > provided FOC by the garage as part of the deal.
> >
> > Tim..
>
> Technically correct but a bit harsh Tim :-)


Not really, a spare key check is probably in the top 5 on the checklist when
buying a nearly new car!

Tim..

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>
> "Dave Griffs" <dr.clayton(no spam)@talk21.com> wrote in message
> news:74MBe.3596$vz5.679@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> > I have bought a 02 picasso, with only one key.
>
> Well you are a bloody idiot for not insisting a 2nd and 3rd key were
> provided FOC by the garage as part of the deal.
>
> Tim..
>
>


I wouldn't say so, considering I used it for bargaining. Managed to get a
tidy sum off as I coped the sales manager as they were closing & he wanted
to go home. Looking at prices in autotrader I couldn't have bought the car
(same model, mileage etc) for this amount privately, & the cheapest trader
was another 750 + I have a 30 day no quibble guarantee, along with a 12
month RAC warranty (not worth much I know, but better than nothing).

"Dave Griffs" <dr.clayton(no spam)@talk21.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Tim.."  wrote in message
> news:dbbo3v$59o$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> >
> > "Dave Griffs" <dr.clayton(no spam)@talk21.com> wrote in message
> > news:74MBe.3596$vz5.679@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> > > I have bought a 02 picasso, with only one key.
> >
> > Well you are a bloody idiot for not insisting a 2nd and 3rd key were
> > provided FOC by the garage as part of the deal.
> >
> > Tim..
> >
> >
>
> I wouldn't say so, considering I used it for bargaining. Managed to get a
> tidy sum off as I coped the sales manager as they were closing & he wanted
> to go home. Looking at prices in autotrader I couldn't have bought the car
> (same model, mileage etc) for this amount privately, & the cheapest trader
> was another 750 + I have a 30 day no quibble guarantee, along with a 12
> month RAC warranty (not worth much I know, but better than nothing).
>
>

Ok, fair enough...And you moaning at the cost of obtaining spare keys when
you made such a saving??!

Tim..

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:55:43 +0000 (UTC), "Tim.."
 wrote:


>
>"Dave Griffs" <dr.clayton(no spam)@talk21.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Tim.."  wrote in message
>> news:dbbo3v$59o$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> >
>> > "Dave Griffs" <dr.clayton(no spam)@talk21.com> wrote in message
>> > news:74MBe.3596$vz5.679@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>> > > I have bought a 02 picasso, with only one key.
>> >
>> > Well you are a bloody idiot for not insisting a 2nd and 3rd key were
>> > provided FOC by the garage as part of the deal.
>> >
>> > Tim..
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I wouldn't say so, considering I used it for bargaining. Managed to get a
>> tidy sum off as I coped the sales manager as they were closing & he wanted
>> to go home. Looking at prices in autotrader I couldn't have bought the car
>> (same model, mileage etc) for this amount privately, & the cheapest trader
>> was another 750 + I have a 30 day no quibble guarantee, along with a 12
>> month RAC warranty (not worth much I know, but better than nothing).
>>
>>
>Ok, fair enough...And you moaning at the cost of obtaining spare keys when
>you made such a saving??!
>
>Tim..
>

Maybe the cost of the replacement keys would completely negate the
saving? Coded keys and transponders can be ridiculously expensive to
obtain from main dealers; my local vauxhall dealers (Hartwells,
well-known ripoff merchants) told me it could cost up to a grand to
reprogram my Omega.

But the OP is right, it is possible to clone keys; one of the better
engine diagnostic units includes this facility. 
Google or try Yell.com for a good auto locksmith who should be able to
do it for you.
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> Ok, fair enough...And you moaning at the cost of obtaining spare keys when
> you made such a saving??!
>
> Tim..
>
>


My main reason is I don't really want the hassle of booking the car in for
them to program the ECU as the nearest dealer is 15 miles away & I need to
leave it with them. If I could have got a cloaned key, I wouldn't have to do
this.
Plus if I can save more cash what wrong with that! Pays for a tank of
diesel.
Citroen want over 100, seems expensive when my escort immobiliser key only
cost 12. It looks like only they can do it, so they have the monopoly & can
charge what they like.

Dave

"Chris Bolus"  wrote in message
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> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:55:43 +0000 (UTC), "Tim.."
> Maybe the cost of the replacement keys would completely negate the
> saving? Coded keys and transponders can be ridiculously expensive to
> obtain from main dealers; my local vauxhall dealers (Hartwells,
> well-known ripoff merchants) told me it could cost up to a grand to
> reprogram my Omega.
>
> But the OP is right, it is possible to clone keys; one of the better
> engine diagnostic units includes this facility.
> Google or try Yell.com for a good auto locksmith who should be able to
> do it for you.
> --
> Regards,  Chris


Thanks Chris. I don't feel as ripped of paying 100 now! The 100 is a lot
less than the saving I made, so I'm still happy. I have tried doing a
search, & found one place that'll do it, but they are based over 100 miles
away & it'd cost more, so it would be easier to just book the car in to the
dealer.

Dave