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downlighters in bathroom ?   
I am thinking of using Aurora cast adjustable low voltage downlghters in my 
bathroom .....all wired with a separate transformer.

Is this ok .........solid sound idea or what ......... are they allowed??


Barry

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Date:Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:25:44 +0100   Author:  

Re: downlighters in bathroom ?   
"bs"  wrote in message
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> I am thinking of using Aurora cast adjustable low voltage downlghters in
my
> bathroom .....all wired with a separate transformer.
>
> Is this ok .........solid sound idea or what ......... are they allowed??
>
>
> Barry
>


Low Voltage is fine for the bathroom, even above the bath or shower, as long
as you keep the high voltage side of the transformer well away from people
while they use the bath or shower.  So, yes, that's a fine and dandy idea.
Date:Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:06:38 GMT   Author:  

Re: downlighters in bathroom ?   
"bs"  wrote in message 
news:Xqmdnb4LYumY7krfRVnygQ@brightview.com...

>I am thinking of using Aurora cast adjustable low voltage downlghters in my 
>bathroom .....all wired with a separate transformer.
>
> Is this ok .........solid sound idea or what ......... are they allowed??
>
>


I'm told the ones B&Q sell are illegal [1]
they are changing them, but first the old stock has to go
[1] no idea how they are allowed to still sell em but thats UK law eh!
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Date:Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:50:17 +0100   Author:  

Re: downlighters in bathroom ?   
"Vass"  wrote in message news:jL6dnQ7r9or5CErfRVnyhA@eclipse.net.uk...

> 
> "bs"  wrote in message 
> news:Xqmdnb4LYumY7krfRVnygQ@brightview.com...
> >I am thinking of using Aurora cast adjustable low voltage downlghters in my 
> >bathroom .....all wired with a separate transformer.
> >
> > Is this ok .........solid sound idea or what ......... are they allowed??
> >
> >
> 
> I'm told the ones B&Q sell are illegal [1]
> they are changing them, but first the old stock has to go
> [1] no idea how they are allowed to still sell em but thats UK law eh!


Maybe they're not ???.

CG...


> -- 
> Vass 
> 
> 
Date:Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:03:42 GMT   Author:  

Re: downlighters in bathroom ?   
"bs"  wrote in message 
news:Xqmdnb4LYumY7krfRVnygQ@brightview.com...

>I am thinking of using Aurora cast adjustable low voltage downlghters in my 
>bathroom .....all wired with a separate transformer.
>
> Is this ok .........solid sound idea or what ......... are they allowed??
>
>
> Barry
>
> Great idea....wouldn't be allowed if they were the 240V 
> versions....already done in my bathroom and it looks a treat..Ive even got 
> 2 in my showering space. 
Date:Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:20:32 GMT   Author:  

Re: downlighters in bathroom ?   
"Blueyonder"  wrote in message 
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Maybe they're not ???.

CG...


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Change your settings to plain text please.

Adam
Date:Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:23:46 GMT   Author:  

Re: downlighters in bathroom ?   
"Vass"  wrote in message 
news:jL6dnQ7r9or5CErfRVnyhA@eclipse.net.uk...

>
> "bs"  wrote in message 
> news:Xqmdnb4LYumY7krfRVnygQ@brightview.com...
>>I am thinking of using Aurora cast adjustable low voltage downlghters in 
>>my bathroom .....all wired with a separate transformer.
>>
>> Is this ok .........solid sound idea or what ......... are they allowed??
>>
>>
>
> I'm told the ones B&Q sell are illegal [1]
> they are changing them, but first the old stock has to go
> [1] no idea how they are allowed to still sell em but thats UK law eh!


I think you may be refering to the 230 volt range of "bathroom" downlighters 
that B&Q sell. When you look carefully at the packaging you will see that it 
states which bathroom zone they are allowed to be fitted in and there is an 
explainaition of these zones on the back of the box.(I have lost my web link 
to these zones)

Adam
Date:Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:37:27 GMT   Author:  

Re: downlighters in bathroom ?   
I've got one over the shower that is combined with an extractor fan (bought 
from Wickes) and it is great.
The transformer is in the loft.
Dave


"biggirlsblouse"  wrote in message 
news:AfSBe.2$Cu3.0@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...

>
> "bs"  wrote in message 
> news:Xqmdnb4LYumY7krfRVnygQ@brightview.com...
>>I am thinking of using Aurora cast adjustable low voltage downlghters in 
>>my bathroom .....all wired with a separate transformer.
>>
>> Is this ok .........solid sound idea or what ......... are they allowed??
>>
>>
>> Barry
>>
>> Great idea....wouldn't be allowed if they were the 240V 
>> versions....already done in my bathroom and it looks a treat..Ive even 
>> got 2 in my showering space.
>
> 
Date:Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:46:22 +0100   Author:  

Re: downlighters in bathroom ?   
What type of light you are allowed to install into a bathroom is dependant
on it's zone rating. This rating is given to the product by the manufacturer
in order to meet the requirements and sub requirements and supporting
standards of BS7671.

See page two of this document for the zone locations. (Also in the screwfix
catalogue)

http://www.iee.org/Publish/WireRegs/EarthingPlasticPipes.pdf

I don't think there is any limitation on voltage level however, for safety
you must install the correct 'zone' rated light in the correct location. Of
course a greater rated zone light may be fitted into a low rated location.

The bathroom is considered a 'special location', a location that has
specific requirements over the general arrangement of the 16th edition
(BS7671).

In this particular case you would have to check if the transformer is also
suitably rated. Just being Extra low voltage (12Vdc) is not enough.

Regards
G

"bs"  wrote in message
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> I am thinking of using Aurora cast adjustable low voltage downlghters in
my
> bathroom .....all wired with a separate transformer.
>
> Is this ok .........solid sound idea or what ......... are they allowed??
>
>
> Barry
>
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Date:Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:22:42 +0100   Author:  

Re: downlighters in bathroom ?   
"G Cadman"  wrote in message 
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> What type of light you are allowed to install into a bathroom is dependant
> on it's zone rating. This rating is given to the product by the 
> manufacturer
> in order to meet the requirements and sub requirements and supporting
> standards of BS7671.




The link I lost is here at
http://www.niceic.org.uk/downloads/NL139supp.pdf



> In this particular case you would have to check if the transformer is also
> suitably rated. Just being Extra low voltage (12Vdc) is not enough.


It is usually 12Vac not dc. A transformer that is situated in the loft is 
usually outside the zones and so is not required to be rated (IPXX or zone 
wise)

Adam
Date:Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:53:48 GMT   Author: