I've a 94 100 Avant. 

Is there any way of telling whether it ever originally had remote
locking and the plib's been lost, or whether it was never fitted in the
first place?

Thanks.

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   Guy King  wrote:

> I've a 94 100 Avant. 

> Is there any way of telling whether it ever originally had remote
> locking and the plib's been lost, or whether it was never fitted in the
> first place?


I'd be surprised if a car of this age and price didn't have it? But most
will also work from the front doors and boot if they're like BMWs of this
age.

My immediate thought would be to remove one of the rubber gaskets going
into a door and check the cables. A rear door is likely to only have an
electric window and possibly a courtesy light of some sort.

If it were Lucas wiring you'd know the colours to look for. ;-)

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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:22:38 +0100, Guy King  wrote:


> I've a 94 100 Avant.
>
> Is there any way of telling whether it ever originally had remote
> locking and the plib's been lost, or whether it was never fitted in the
> first place?
>
> Thanks.
>

It's unlikely to have had it, if it did have it fitted as an optional  
extra then there's a little IR sensor

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from "Dave Plowman (News)"  contains these words:


> I'd be surprised if a car of this age and price didn't have it? But most
> will also work from the front doors and boot if they're like BMWs of this
> age.


It works from the driver's door lock, you have to turn it twice to open
all the other doors. It's the remote bit I'm not sure about.

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> It's unlikely to have had it, if it did have it fitted as an optional  
> extra then there's a little IR sensor


Where - and what's it look like?

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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:46:02 +0100, Guy King  wrote:


> The message <op.stqzqhpx4wom51@amy>
> from Duncanwood  contains these words:
>
>> It's unlikely to have had it, if it did have it fitted as an optional
>> extra then there's a little IR sensor
>
> Where - and what's it look like?
>


IIRC it's a little blob on the B posts trim. If you've got it but not the  
key it's probably cheaper to buy an aftermarket one.

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> IIRC it's a little blob on the B posts trim. If you've got it but not the  
> key it's probably cheaper to buy an aftermarket one.


The trouble with that is interfacing it to the existing factory alarm.

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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:41:40 +0100, Guy King  wrote:


> The message <op.stq4ezb44wom51@amy>
> from Duncanwood  contains these words:
>
>> IIRC it's a little blob on the B posts trim. If you've got it but not  
>> the
>> key it's probably cheaper to buy an aftermarket one.
>
> The trouble with that is interfacing it to the existing factory alarm.
>



If it's the base level alarm (no ultrasonics) then it's suprisingly good  
at detecting the key up to about 6'. Try it wehn you won't irritate the  
neighbous by locking it & leaving the window down.

> I've a 94 100 Avant.
>
> Is there any way of telling whether it ever originally had remote
> locking and the plib's been lost, or whether it was never fitted in the
> first place?


There should be an IR sensor near the bottom of the pillar between the front 
and rear doors.  I'd say that's a fair sign it was fitted with it!

Peter

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   Guy King  wrote:

> > I'd be surprised if a car of this age and price didn't have it? But
> > most will also work from the front doors and boot if they're like BMWs
> > of this age.

> It works from the driver's door lock, you have to turn it twice to open
> all the other doors. It's the remote bit I'm not sure about.


Ah - misread the post. It wasn't a factory fit on my '92 BMW 525 SE if
that helps.

You'd get the bits to do it from Maplin for not a lot, though. Or even
Ebay.

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these words:


> There should be an IR sensor near the bottom of the pillar between the
> front 
> and rear doors.  I'd say that's a fair sign it was fitted with it!


Right. In that case I suppose it wasn't!

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from Duncanwood  contains these words:


> If it's the base level alarm (no ultrasonics) then it's suprisingly good  
> at detecting the key up to about 6'. Try it wehn you won't irritate the  
> neighbous by locking it & leaving the window down.


Detecting /what/ key? The key is a plain metal one.

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In article ,
   Guy King  wrote:

> > IIRC it's a little blob on the B posts trim. If you've got it but not
> > the key it's probably cheaper to buy an aftermarket one.

> The trouble with that is interfacing it to the existing factory alarm.


Does the alarm set when the doors are locked manually?

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from "Dave Plowman (News)"  contains these words:


> > The trouble with that is interfacing it to the existing factory alarm.

> Does the alarm set when the doors are locked manually?


Yes. It's the only way the doors can be locked as I have no remote. It
appears there never was a remote.

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   Guy King  wrote:

> > > The trouble with that is interfacing it to the existing factory
> > > alarm.

> > Does the alarm set when the doors are locked manually?

> Yes. It's the only way the doors can be locked as I have no remote. It
> appears there never was a remote.


Well, assuming the driver's door has a motor and isn't like the Montego,
etc, adding a Maplin remote should set the alarm too.

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from "Dave Plowman (News)"  contains these words:


> Well, assuming the driver's door has a motor and isn't like the Montego,
> etc, adding a Maplin remote should set the alarm too.


Trouble is, unlocking it involves turning the key twice, which I don't
think the alarm will manage.

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   Guy King  wrote:

> > Well, assuming the driver's door has a motor and isn't like the
> > Montego, etc, adding a Maplin remote should set the alarm too.

> Trouble is, unlocking it involves turning the key twice, which I don't
> think the alarm will manage.


Sounds like it's got deadlocks. By old BMW had those, and if you did
deadlock it (with the key) the remote wouldn't open it. It had an
aftermarket alarm and remote.

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Remote ultra-sonic locking (and alarming) was an option for Audis
around this year.

Look here :

http://www.vagparts.com/pages/A6rem.htm

These are what would have been fitted at the factory if that option was
required.

I bought one of these kits for my 1995 Coupe. A very easy fit (easier
still for an Avant!) and works well. Basically, unplug a
multi-connector on you central locking vacuum pump (located just inside
your tailgate area on the off-side) plug this unit in and piggy back
original one.

Contact the guys at VagParts to see if its appropriate for you 100.

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> Remote ultra-sonic locking (and alarming) was an option for Audis
> around this year.

> Look here :

> http://www.vagparts.com/pages/A6rem.htm


That's the thing! Mine does all the close the windows business. I'll
give 'em a go.

Thanks.

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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:24:14 +0100, Guy King  wrote:


> The message <op.stq7ectl4wom51@amy>
> from Duncanwood  contains these words:
>
>> If it's the base level alarm (no ultrasonics) then it's suprisingly good
>> at detecting the key up to about 6'. Try it wehn you won't irritate the
>> neighbous by locking it & leaving the window down.
>
> Detecting /what/ key? The key is a plain metal one.
>


ON mine the alrm went off if you opened the doors & the key was more than  
10' away, if the key was in your pocket then it didn't. Even the plain  
metal keys got the immobiliser codes in it.

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from Duncanwood  contains these words:


> ON mine the alrm went off if you opened the doors & the key was more than  
> 10' away, if the key was in your pocket then it didn't. Even the plain  
> metal keys got the immobiliser codes in it.


Not the one I got a 3 from the keycutter in the market hasnt'!

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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:19:21 +0100, Guy King  wrote:


> The message <op.stsv7nux4wom51@amy>
> from Duncanwood  contains these words:
>
>> ON mine the alrm went off if you opened the doors & the key was more  
>> than
>> 10' away, if the key was in your pocket then it didn't. Even the plain
>> metal keys got the immobiliser codes in it.
>
> Not the one I got a 3 from the keycutter in the market hasnt'!
>




Does that start the car though? If it does then somebodys already bypassed  
the immobilser, normally by taping a key to the steering column.

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Guy King  decided to enlighten our sheltered souls 
with a rant as follows

> The message 
> from "Dave Plowman (News)"  contains these
> words:
>
>> I'd be surprised if a car of this age and price didn't have it? But
>> most will also work from the front doors and boot if they're like
>> BMWs of this age.
>
> It works from the driver's door lock, you have to turn it twice to
> open all the other doors. It's the remote bit I'm not sure about.


IIRC, on the older Audis, there was a sensor on the drivers door pillar for 
the remote.

ISTR James May saying something about "Chivalry must be dead in Germany, or 
Audi don't believe in opening doors for ladies before getting in yourself", 
then wittering on about approaching Audis from the near side and the remote 
not working.


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from Duncanwood  contains these words:


> > Not the one I got a 3 from the keycutter in the market hasnt'!
> >



> Does that start the car though? If it does then somebodys already bypassed  
> the immobilser, normally by taping a key to the steering column.


Yes. I'm not sure it has that sort of imobiliser. I tried locking the
door to arm the alarm then reached in and couldn't start the car -
nothing happened.

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Skipweasel.
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