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Dave Licquorice?   
Hey Dave - we've been talking about you, Kezzi and I, in a previous thread, 
and thought maybe you hadn't spotted it, as it was buried amongst stuff 
about Ravenglass.

We think it's time for a boink again, and were wondering about holding it 
somewhere a bit nearer your neck of the woods as some of us would love to 
meet you, and anyone else from the far-flung eastern edges of the county. 
(Of course, you may not want to meet us.... but that's another story....) 
Any ideas or suggestions?

ally
Date:Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:21:29 +0100   Author:  

Re: Ravenglass Charter Fair   
a l l y  su corazn que bate difcilmente 
dentro de su pecho de nia, anhelando como ella coloc su pluma en el papel 
para escribir a Kezzi, el caballero de ella sueos :

> Hey Dave - we've been talking about you, Kezzi and I, in a previous
> thread, and thought maybe you hadn't spotted it, as it was buried
> amongst stuff about Ravenglass.
>
> We think it's time for a boink again, and were wondering about
> holding it somewhere a bit nearer your neck of the woods as some of
> us would love to meet you, and anyone else from the far-flung eastern
> edges of the county. (Of course, you may not want to meet us.... but
> that's another story....) Any ideas or suggestions?
>
> ally


I liked the old thread.....

Yes, as I said, we would hanker further on over if we could stay over 
somewhere.

Kezzi-resistant-to-change
Date:Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:55:25 +0100   Author:  

Re: Ravenglass Charter Fair   
"Kezzi" <dirty_s@nchez> wrote in message 
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>
> I liked the old thread.....


Yeah, I miss its comfortable familiarity. I also liked the colour and the 
heavyweight cotton it was spun from...



>
> Yes, as I said, we would hanker further on over if we could stay over 
> somewhere.
>
> Kezzi-resistant-to-change


My mother used to say: "Changes are lightsome as daft folks like them." I'm 
not sure what she meant, though....

ally
Date:Wed, 6 Jul 2005 00:06:53 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
a l l y wrote:

> Hey Dave - we've been talking about you, Kezzi and I, in a previous
> thread, and thought maybe you hadn't spotted it, as it was buried
> amongst stuff about Ravenglass.
>
> We think it's time for a boink again, and were wondering about
> holding it somewhere a bit nearer your neck of the woods as some of
> us would love to meet you, and anyone else from the far-flung eastern
> edges of the county. (Of course, you may not want to meet us.... but
> that's another story....) Any ideas or suggestions?
>
> ally


why not visit Kevin's Eden Valley Paradise?

Al




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Date:Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:13:31 -0500   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
I reckon I probably have one of the finest Bishops in the UK. 
Always there when needed. Never flinches at what has to be done.
Does an excellent job AND enjoys doing so. All of the females who
avail themselves of the Bishops services are effusesive in their
praises.It truely is a spiritual experience for all of them.  Nearly
all of them return when the need arises which in some cases is very
often.  I must have one of the biggest best provided for in the UK.
The body is about nine and a half inches long with a handsome purple
mitre on top. Mind you the back-up available is phenomenal.
The general diameter? Well!! When standing to attention, and that
happens quite often, is over two inches. Testicles? About the size of
a medium grade hens egg. 

Yes life is wonderful.
Date:Wed, 06 Jul 2005 08:14:36 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
Alfred Packer  wrote:

> a l l y wrote:
>> Hey Dave - we've been talking about you, Kezzi and I, in a previous
>> thread, and thought maybe you hadn't spotted it, as it was buried
>> amongst stuff about Ravenglass.
>>
>> We think it's time for a boink again, and were wondering about
>> holding it somewhere a bit nearer your neck of the woods as some of
>> us would love to meet you, and anyone else from the far-flung eastern
>> edges of the county. (Of course, you may not want to meet us.... but
>> that's another story....) Any ideas or suggestions?
>>
>> ally
>
> why not visit Kevin's Eden Valley Paradise?
>
> Al


Appleby would be perfect for us. The haunt of my far off 
horse-dealer/slaughterer ancestors.....

Kezzi 'n' Kai Hsia. . .
Date:Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:28:32 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"Alfred Packer"  wrote in message 
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>
> why not visit Kevin's Eden Valley Paradise?
>

That would be nice. What's happened to our Kev anyway? Haven't seen him 
about for ages.

ally
Date:Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:38:06 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"Kezzi" <dirty_s@nchez> wrote in message 
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>
> Appleby would be perfect for us. The haunt of my far off 
> horse-dealer/slaughterer ancestors.....
>

You got Romany blood, gadgie?

ally
Date:Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:38:51 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
a l l y  wrote:

> "Kezzi" <dirty_s@nchez> wrote in message
> news:42cb963a$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>
>> Appleby would be perfect for us. The haunt of my far off
>> horse-dealer/slaughterer ancestors.....
>>
> You got Romany blood, gadgie?
>
> ally


My great aunt Jinny was gypsy queen and my gt uncles were the Windles (Horse 
Slaughterers) of the Skipton/Kildwick area. Tommy was famous around for his 
undefeated bare knuckle boxing.

I'm about a quarter Romany.

That'll be the quarter that keeps wandering off.....

Kezzi Didicoi. . .
Date:Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:49:38 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"Kezzi" <dirty_s@nchez> wrote in message 
news:42cbc574$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...

>>>
>> You got Romany blood, gadgie?
>>
>> ally
>
> My great aunt Jinny was gypsy queen and my gt uncles were the Windles 
> (Horse Slaughterers) of the Skipton/Kildwick area. Tommy was famous around 
> for his undefeated bare knuckle boxing.
>
> I'm about a quarter Romany.
>
> That'll be the quarter that keeps wandering off.....
>
> Kezzi Didicoi. . .


Brilliant.

My own closest connection is that my late husband's sister's in-laws were 
Blyths, descended from Johnny Fa Blyth the gypsy king of Kirk Yetholm. (Not 
very close, I know... )

ally
Date:Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:02:12 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   

> Brilliant.
> 
> My own closest connection is that my late husband's
> sister's in-laws were Blyths, descended from Johnny Fa
> Blyth the gypsy king of Kirk Yetholm. (Not very close, I
> know... ) 
> 
> ally 


I think that makes you unconnected, in fact.

Johnny-nit-picking

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Date:6 Jul 2005 08:29:44 -0500   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "Kezzi" <dirty_s@nchez> wrote in message
> news:42cbc574$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> >>>
> >> You got Romany blood, gadgie?
> >>
> >> ally
> >
> > My great aunt Jinny was gypsy queen and my gt uncles were the Windles
> > (Horse Slaughterers) of the Skipton/Kildwick area. Tommy was famous
around
> > for his undefeated bare knuckle boxing.
> >
> > I'm about a quarter Romany.
> >
> > That'll be the quarter that keeps wandering off.....
> >
> > Kezzi Didicoi. . .
>
> Brilliant.
>
> My own closest connection is that my late husband's sister's in-laws were
> Blyths, descended from Johnny Fa Blyth the gypsy king of Kirk Yetholm.
(Not
> very close, I know... )
>
> ally


I knew it. I knew theh wuz summet aboot thee. Heyopp, az gitten me garlic
onions oot un' az ganna thread um roond me neck.
A'az nut ganna end oop in Harry potter's book.

Edith - frightened o northern witches.
Date:Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:26:00 +0200   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
<Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message
news:42cbdcc8$1_2@spool9-west.superfeed.net...

> > Brilliant.
> >
> > My own closest connection is that my late husband's
> > sister's in-laws were Blyths, descended from Johnny Fa
> > Blyth the gypsy king of Kirk Yetholm. (Not very close, I
> > know... )
> >
> > ally
>
> I think that makes you unconnected, in fact.
>
> Johnny-nit-picking


Have you tried sulio?

Edith-keeping her distance.
Date:Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:33:25 +0200   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"Kezzi" <dirty_s@nchez> wrote in message
news:42cbc574$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...

> a l l y  wrote:
> > "Kezzi" <dirty_s@nchez> wrote in message
> > news:42cb963a$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> >>
> >> Appleby would be perfect for us. The haunt of my far off
> >> horse-dealer/slaughterer ancestors.....
> >>
> > You got Romany blood, gadgie?
> >
> > ally
>
> My great aunt Jinny was gypsy queen and my gt uncles were the Windles
(Horse
> Slaughterers) of the Skipton/Kildwick area. Tommy was famous around for
his
> undefeated bare knuckle boxing.
>
> I'm about a quarter Romany.
>
> That'll be the quarter that keeps wandering off.....
>
> Kezzi Didicoi. . .


I'm not sure if I'm a quarter of anything really. I could be a quarter of
Dolly Mixtures. Yeah.

Edith.
Date:Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:35:09 +0200   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   

> Have you tried sulio?
> 
> Edith-keeping her distance.


Sulio?

You're stark-raving.

Johnny-my-sky-is-blue-what's-yours?

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Date:6 Jul 2005 09:28:32 -0500   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> My own closest connection is that my late husband's sister's in-laws were
>> Blyths, descended from Johnny Fa Blyth the gypsy king of Kirk Yetholm.
> (Not
>> very close, I know... )
>>
>> ally
>
> I knew it. I knew theh wuz summet aboot thee. Heyopp, az gitten me garlic
> onions oot un' az ganna thread um roond me neck.
> A'az nut ganna end oop in Harry potter's book.
>


Hmm. I only wish I was related to them, rather than just through some 
in-laws. Wonderful, exciting race of people to be connected with.


> Edith - frightened o northern witches.
>


Really, O Sun Goddess Of The North?

ally
Date:Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:10:19 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
<Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message 
news:42cbdcc8$1_2@spool9-west.superfeed.net...

>> Brilliant.
>>
>> My own closest connection is that my late husband's
>> sister's in-laws were Blyths, descended from Johnny Fa
>> Blyth the gypsy king of Kirk Yetholm. (Not very close, I
>> know... )
>>
>> ally
>
> I think that makes you unconnected, in fact.
>

Well, er.... yes.

ally-no-connection
Date:Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:11:17 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
a l l y  wrote:

> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
> news:NZQye.58522$Fe7.193275@news000.worldonline.dk...
>>>
> Hmm. I only wish I was related to them, rather than just through some
> in-laws. Wonderful, exciting race of people to be connected with.
>
> ally


Hmmmm. Well me gurt uncle Tommy sold out in the end and bought Airedale 
House near Skipton. His brother, me gurt uncle Charlie wouldn't leave the 
tradition and lived in his caravan in the grounds wi' his wife 'til the day 
he died. Never set foot in the house. After that Tommy's lads bought a 
terrace in Sutton and the girls wed outside the clan. Aunty Jinny drank and 
smoked hersel' to death at 100 and summat and that were the end of that. No 
relatives have any inclination anymore. I feel a little nostalgic when I see 
the tinkers about but times was 'ard when we were kids. Couldn't go back.... 
Fond mem'ries of snuggling up between me gran and gramps in the van when I 
was little but even they ended up taking on a smallholding and 2-roomed 
cottage.... Fickle!

Kez. . .
Date:Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:02:52 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
The Traveller wrote:


> I'm not sure if I'm a quarter of anything really. I could be a quarter of
> Dolly Mixtures. Yeah.
> 
> Edith.


How quaintly nostalgic the term "A quarter of Dolly Mixtures" is to a 
British child of my generation. I think that would have set you back 
fourpence, or maybe sixpence.

Jp
Date:Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:46:17 -0400   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
I reckon I probably have one of the finest Bishops in the UK. 
Always there when needed. Never flinches at what has to be done.
Does an excellent job AND enjoys doing so. All of the females who
avail themselves of the Bishops services are effusesive in their
praises.It truely is a spiritual experience for all of them.  Nearly
all of them return when the need arises which in some cases is very
often.  I must have one of the biggest best provided for in the UK.
The body is about nine and a half inches long with a handsome purple
mitre on top. Mind you the back-up available is phenomenal.
The general diameter? Well!! When standing to attention, and that
happens quite often, is over two inches. Testicles? About the size of
a medium grade hens egg. 

Yes life is wonderful.
Date:Wed, 06 Jul 2005 23:23:47 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
<Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message
news:42cbea90$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net...

> > Have you tried sulio?
> >
> > Edith-keeping her distance.
>
> Sulio?
>
> You're stark-raving.
>
> Johnny-my-sky-is-blue-what's-yours?


Mine is blue too - today.Did I tell you about the summer storm that flooded
my new veranda yesterday evening? My guests and I were just about to go out
onto the veranda in lovely weather with our coffee and cream cakes when a
storm blew up and flooded the veranda and almost lifted the 6 meter long
markise up onto the roof. I had to hang on to it in the middle while two
people fastened it at each end. Sod, bloody sod.

Nitty Gritty Earthly Edith.
Date:Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:05:22 +0200   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"a l l y"  wrote in message
news:3j2aioFnu0l1U1@individual.net...

>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
> news:NZQye.58522$Fe7.193275@news000.worldonline.dk...
> >>
> >> My own closest connection is that my late husband's sister's in-laws
were
> >> Blyths, descended from Johnny Fa Blyth the gypsy king of Kirk Yetholm.
> > (Not
> >> very close, I know... )
> >>
> >> ally
> >
> > I knew it. I knew theh wuz summet aboot thee. Heyopp, az gitten me
garlic
> > onions oot un' az ganna thread um roond me neck.
> > A'az nut ganna end oop in Harry potter's book.
> >
>
> Hmm. I only wish I was related to them, rather than just through some
> in-laws. Wonderful, exciting race of people to be connected with.
>
> > Edith - frightened o northern witches.
> >
>
> Really, O Sun Goddess Of The North?
>
> ally


Well, not really, just a little bit Ye ol' Witch o the Solway.
Date:Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:11:20 +0200   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"Kezzi" <dirty_s@nchez> wrote in message
news:42cc00aa_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...

> a l l y  wrote:
> > "The Traveller"  wrote in message
> > news:NZQye.58522$Fe7.193275@news000.worldonline.dk...
> >>>
> > Hmm. I only wish I was related to them, rather than just through some
> > in-laws. Wonderful, exciting race of people to be connected with.
> >
> > ally
>
> Hmmmm. Well me gurt uncle Tommy sold out in the end and bought Airedale
> House near Skipton. His brother, me gurt uncle Charlie wouldn't leave the
> tradition and lived in his caravan in the grounds wi' his wife 'til the
day
> he died. Never set foot in the house. After that Tommy's lads bought a
> terrace in Sutton and the girls wed outside the clan. Aunty Jinny drank
and
> smoked hersel' to death at 100 and summat and that were the end of that.
No
> relatives have any inclination anymore. I feel a little nostalgic when I
see
> the tinkers about but times was 'ard when we were kids. Couldn't go
back....
> Fond mem'ries of snuggling up between me gran and gramps in the van when I
> was little but even they ended up taking on a smallholding and 2-roomed
> cottage.... Fickle!
>
> Kez. . .


What with tinkers and fen folk , sun godesses and witches from the north. I
think I'll join some other news group. It's blooming not safe here.

Where's me purse? Has anybody seen me purse? ow where did I put it, og I. In
the fridge.

Edith.
Date:Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:24:59 +0200   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"Jpinny"  wrote in message
news:JiYye.13661$SQ1.13578@fe09.lga...

> The Traveller wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure if I'm a quarter of anything really. I could be a quarter
of
> > Dolly Mixtures. Yeah.
> >
> > Edith.
>
> How quaintly nostalgic the term "A quarter of Dolly Mixtures" is to a
> British child of my generation. I think that would have set you back
> fourpence, or maybe sixpence.
>
> Jp


and so good they were too, Jp. I used to deliver potato peelings to a lady
on the block and she would give me a little used paper bag with a few dolly
mixtures in. I was in heaven.

Edith.
Date:Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:30:48 +0200   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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> Where's me purse? Has anybody seen me purse? ow where did I put it, og I. 
> In
> the fridge.
>

Oh dear. That's the first sign, I'm afraid....

ally
Date:Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:40:19 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
news:FC3ze.58640$Fe7.193687@news000.worldonline.dk...

>
> <Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message
> news:42cbea90$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net...
>> > Have you tried sulio?
>> >
>> > Edith-keeping her distance.
>>
>> Sulio?
>>
>> You're stark-raving.
>>
>> Johnny-my-sky-is-blue-what's-yours?
>
> Mine is blue too - today.Did I tell you about the summer storm that 
> flooded
> my new veranda yesterday evening? My guests and I were just about to go 
> out
> onto the veranda in lovely weather with our coffee and cream cakes when a
> storm blew up and flooded the veranda and almost lifted the 6 meter long
> markise up onto the roof. I had to hang on to it in the middle while two
> people fastened it at each end. Sod, bloody sod.
>

Ah, but after the rain stopped, WERE THERE ANY PUDDLES? Or did the water 
drain away as it's supposed to?

ally
Date:Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:41:57 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"Kezzi" <dirty_s@nchez> wrote in message 
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>a l l y  wrote:
>> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
>> news:NZQye.58522$Fe7.193275@news000.worldonline.dk...
>>>>
>> Hmm. I only wish I was related to them, rather than just through some
>> in-laws. Wonderful, exciting race of people to be connected with.
>>
>> ally
>
> Hmmmm. Well me gurt uncle Tommy sold out in the end and bought Airedale 
> House near Skipton. His brother, me gurt uncle Charlie wouldn't leave the 
> tradition and lived in his caravan in the grounds wi' his wife 'til the 
> day he died. Never set foot in the house. After that Tommy's lads bought a 
> terrace in Sutton and the girls wed outside the clan. Aunty Jinny drank 
> and smoked hersel' to death at 100 and summat and that were the end of 
> that. No relatives have any inclination anymore. I feel a little nostalgic 
> when I see the tinkers about but times was 'ard when we were kids. 
> Couldn't go back.... Fond mem'ries of snuggling up between me gran and 
> gramps in the van when I was little but even they ended up taking on a 
> smallholding and 2-roomed cottage.... Fickle!
>

Not what you'd call a comfortable existence, no.

Suddenly a scene from my youth came back to me. I must have been about 10, I 
suppose. A quiet country lane near West Linton, a village south of Edinburgh 
where we used to spend the summer hols. My mum and dad and I were cycling 
along, heading back to our summer cottage a couple of miles away, and the 
sky was turning grey so we knew there was a lot of rain coming. At the side 
of the road I spotted something I couldn't quite make sense of at first 
glance. Sheets of dark-coloured, rather dirty-looking fabric stretched out 
and over, making round mounded shelters - you couldn't really call them 
tents. As I looked closer I saw a few faces peering out. My father told me 
they were tinkers, and hurried us along.

I can't remember if they had horses. They must have had, surely? I just 
remember the dirty little faces gazing up at us. I kept wondering about how 
they lived, in makeshift tents at the side of the road in the rain. This was 
Scotland in the 1960s, not the 3rd world.

I can understand why people would become tied to the tradition of living in 
a caravan and moving from place to place all the time, even when times are 
hard. But in squalid little tents? Why did they do it? There were social 
services in the 60s. There were council houses and state benefits. They 
didn't have to live like that, so why did they? Were they hoping one day 
they could afford a caravan? Was the idea of living in a house so anathema 
to them that anything was preferable?

ally
Date:Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:56:12 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
> news:FC3ze.58640$Fe7.193687@news000.worldonline.dk...
> >
> > <Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message
> > news:42cbea90$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net...
> >> > Have you tried sulio?
> >> >
> >> > Edith-keeping her distance.
> >>
> >> Sulio?
> >>
> >> You're stark-raving.
> >>
> >> Johnny-my-sky-is-blue-what's-yours?
> >
> > Mine is blue too - today.Did I tell you about the summer storm that
> > flooded
> > my new veranda yesterday evening? My guests and I were just about to go
> > out
> > onto the veranda in lovely weather with our coffee and cream cakes when
a
> > storm blew up and flooded the veranda and almost lifted the 6 meter long
> > markise up onto the roof. I had to hang on to it in the middle while two
> > people fastened it at each end. Sod, bloody sod.
> >
> Ah, but after the rain stopped, WERE THERE ANY PUDDLES? Or did the water
> drain away as it's supposed to?
>
> ally


No Ally. It's the same-just spread out over a greater distance and less
deep. It's a big dissapointment. I don't know what to think. Let it be or
complain and be never done. I might just complain and hope they take a look
at it after their hols. If Orly isn't to tired I'll ask him to clear the
veranda of furniture tonight when he comes home. It's no big job. My pelvic
is out today so I can't lift even a kettle.Balls!

Edith.
Date:Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:02:14 +0200   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> No Ally. It's the same-just spread out over a greater distance and less
> deep. It's a big dissapointment. I don't know what to think. Let it be or
> complain and be never done. I might just complain and hope they take a 
> look
> at it after their hols. If Orly isn't to tired I'll ask him to clear the
> veranda of furniture tonight when he comes home. It's no big job. My 
> pelvic
> is out today so I can't lift even a kettle.Balls!
>

Don't let them get away with it. Not after all this time. Tie them up until 
they agree to do it. Hold their children hostage. Do whatever you have to 
do....

ally
Date:Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:56:00 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"a l l y"  wrote in message
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> I can understand why people would become tied to the tradition of living
in
> a caravan and moving from place to place all the time, even when times are
> hard. But in squalid little tents? Why did they do it? There were social
> services in the 60s. There were council houses and state benefits. They
> didn't have to live like that, so why did they? Were they hoping one day
> they could afford a caravan? Was the idea of living in a house so anathema
> to them that anything was preferable?
>
> ally
>

Hippies? or being hooked to an office queue isn't easy for 'traveler's or
maybe they'd rather starve than relish the system.
I suppose when country roads have taken a grip it isn't easy to leave them.
It's the same with sailors when they go into dry dock-take to land-they
can't seem to settle down and often go back to sea again. We have the call
of the wild in us, all of us being animals. It's responsibility that ties us
down and the way our life is planned for us before we are born even. Grow
up-go to school-get a job-house-family-put all our money back into the
system-then die.

The system,..shiver.I suppose we need one.
Edith.
Date:Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:33:44 +0200   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
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> >
> > No Ally. It's the same-just spread out over a greater distance and less
> > deep. It's a big dissapointment. I don't know what to think. Let it be
or
> > complain and be never done. I might just complain and hope they take a
> > look
> > at it after their hols. If Orly isn't to tired I'll ask him to clear the
> > veranda of furniture tonight when he comes home. It's no big job. My
> > pelvic
> > is out today so I can't lift even a kettle.Balls!
> >
> Don't let them get away with it. Not after all this time. Tie them up
until
> they agree to do it. Hold their children hostage. Do whatever you have to
> do....
>
> ally


I turned on the charm this morning, Ally. The tiles are half way up and they
are going to lay another lair of membrane (brown fowl smelling shitty stuff)
It won't cure the problem completely but it will be better than it is/was
and I didn't even have to whip them .0)

Edith.
Date:Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:58:02 +0200   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message
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>> I can understand why people would become tied to the tradition of living
> in
>> a caravan and moving from place to place all the time, even when times 
>> are
>> hard. But in squalid little tents? Why did they do it? There were social
>> services in the 60s. There were council houses and state benefits. They
>> didn't have to live like that, so why did they? Were they hoping one day
>> they could afford a caravan? Was the idea of living in a house so 
>> anathema
>> to them that anything was preferable?
>>
>> ally
>>
> Hippies? or being hooked to an office queue isn't easy for 'traveler's or
> maybe they'd rather starve than relish the system.
> I suppose when country roads have taken a grip it isn't easy to leave 
> them.
> It's the same with sailors when they go into dry dock-take to land-they
> can't seem to settle down and often go back to sea again. We have the call
> of the wild in us, all of us being animals. It's responsibility that ties 
> us
> down and the way our life is planned for us before we are born even. Grow
> up-go to school-get a job-house-family-put all our money back into the
> system-then die.
>
> The system,..shiver.I suppose we need one.


Very philosophical for so early in the morning. Too early for a sensible 
reply from me, though....

ally
Late to bed, late to rise, makes a woman.........er.......... a bit dopey in 
the morning.......
Date:Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:39:11 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> I turned on the charm this morning, Ally. The tiles are half way up and 
> they
> are going to lay another lair of membrane (brown fowl smelling shitty 
> stuff)
> It won't cure the problem completely but it will be better than it is/was
> and I didn't even have to whip them .0)
>


Well. Good.

I'm trying to visualise this veranda. Is there a hole somewhere, where the 
water is supposed to drain away? And does the floor slope towards it?

ally
Date:Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:40:48 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"a l l y"  wrote in message
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> > The system,..shiver.I suppose we need one.
>
> Very philosophical for so early in the morning. Too early for a sensible
> reply from me, though....
>
> ally
> Late to bed, late to rise, makes a woman.........er.......... a bit dopey
in
> the morning.......


Lol. They're working on my verandassssssssssss. They'll be finished this
week.I believe.

Edith
Date:Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:55:02 +0200   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
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> >
> > I turned on the charm this morning, Ally. The tiles are half way up and
> > they
> > are going to lay another lair of membrane (brown fowl smelling shitty
> > stuff)
> > It won't cure the problem completely but it will be better than it
is/was
> > and I didn't even have to whip them .0)
> >
>
> Well. Good.
>
> I'm trying to visualise this veranda. Is there a hole somewhere, where the
> water is supposed to drain away? And does the floor slope towards it?
>
> ally


You are kidding me, aren't you. Those two points have been the subject of
the whole project. I am. I am. I'm staring to have a nervous breakdown
again. Is there a hole. Yes. Does the water run toward it. No. No. and NNNNo
but they're working on it. 4th time they've tried today. Orly says I talk
about the verandas in my sleep.Today I worked with them running up and down
with wet cloths and slikkepots because that broon stuff dries quickly. I
even spread a la'al bit uv it oot mesel'

Edith Entrepreneurdatti.

Wars t'lads on't group tuday? Am missing thum.

pst! btw Ally, the lad spreading the stuff today is awfully tall blond
and.....and......and......I'm just off for a cold shower. It's awfully hot
weather today. Orly, will yah come home earlier please. I have a job for
you.

eheheh little does he know that the tiles need laid again. I said TILES.

E.
Date:Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:19:32 +0200   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> You are kidding me, aren't you. Those two points have been the subject of
> the whole project. I am. I am. I'm staring to have a nervous breakdown
> again. Is there a hole. Yes. Does the water run toward it. No. No. and 
> NNNNo
> but they're working on it. 4th time they've tried today. Orly says I talk
> about the verandas in my sleep.Today I worked with them running up and 
> down
> with wet cloths and slikkepots because that broon stuff dries quickly. I
> even spread a la'al bit uv it oot mesel'
>


So, don't these tall, blond-but-brainless chaps possess a spirit level 
between them? Even I could lay a floor that drained away towards a hole, and 
I've never laid a floor in my life.

Personally I'd rather have workmen ugly as sin if they actually knew what 
they were doing.

ally
Date:Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:41:36 +0100   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
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> >
> > You are kidding me, aren't you. Those two points have been the subject
of
> > the whole project. I am. I am. I'm staring to have a nervous breakdown
> > again. Is there a hole. Yes. Does the water run toward it. No. No. and
> > NNNNo
> > but they're working on it. 4th time they've tried today. Orly says I
talk
> > about the verandas in my sleep.Today I worked with them running up and
> > down
> > with wet cloths and slikkepots because that broon stuff dries quickly. I
> > even spread a la'al bit uv it oot mesel'
> >
>
> So, don't these tall, blond-but-brainless chaps possess a spirit level
> between them? Even I could lay a floor that drained away towards a hole,
and
> I've never laid a floor in my life.
>
> Personally I'd rather have workmen ugly as sin if they actually knew what
> they were doing.
>
> ally


That's what I said to them-but it wasn't as easy as it looked-but now I'll
have to wait until their hols are over and if it still aint right, they say
they'll come back in the Autumn to work on it again. The floor had to slope
downwards toward the edge of the veranda, then it had to slope slightly up
so the water wouldn't run down to the flat below, then it had to slope 6.30
meters from the one end to the other, towards the drain/drainpipe. Then the
bosses were hanging around with - so much membrane per veranda- (not enough
for mine) so much time per veranda  - (not enough for mine)
Mine was the worste you see, being the last one to be built in 1980 and
being on the top corner lowest part of the building, on a slight hill, all
water ending in my corner. I must wait a few days for the material to set
and turn hard-then I can put the furniture back and enjoy. One more job is
to strengthen the arms on the markiser. Orly plans to mekka something at
work, so it doean't get blown up onto the roof again. It is like one big
sail.

So, now the men have just left. I hope I don't see them again for years to
come, altho they were all very nice.

No more veranda talk for me, phew, me hopes.

Edith.
Date:Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:21:44 +0200   Author:  

Re: Dave Licquorice?   
"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> No more veranda talk for me, phew, me hopes.
>

Er.... hurrah! I think...

ally
Date:Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:24:02 +0100   Author: