I've just noticed that the left-hand outer CV joint boot on my 1993 306 has 
split, throwing grease all around the rear of the hub.

I was wondering if anyone has successfully replaced the outer boot on a 306 
without removing the driveshaft from the car, and hence avoiding draining 
the transmission oil.

Without removing the driveshaft I can see two options:

1. Cut the boot off and attempt to remove the outer part of the outer joint 
whilst hoping that the inner joint's splines stay in the transmission.

2. Cut the boot off and attempt to fit a universal stretch boot using the 
special stretch cones that are available.

Has anyone had any success with either of the above methods on a 306 or 
should I just not be lazy and remove the whole driveshaft from the car?

Any thoughts appreciated...

Cheers

Chris

"Chris Howarth" <a@a.e> wrote in message
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> I've just noticed that the left-hand outer CV joint boot on my 1993 306
has
> split, throwing grease all around the rear of the hub.
>
> I was wondering if anyone has successfully replaced the outer boot on a
306
> without removing the driveshaft from the car, and hence avoiding draining
> the transmission oil.


yes its possible to do it by leaving the drive shaft in situ, from memory
though i cant remember if they have a knock off joint or not ?



>
> Without removing the driveshaft I can see two options:
>
> 1. Cut the boot off and attempt to remove the outer part of the outer
joint
> whilst hoping that the inner joint's splines stay in the transmission.
>
> 2. Cut the boot off and attempt to fit a universal stretch boot using the
> special stretch cones that are available.


we only use these stretch ones if we cant knock the outer joint off the
driveshaft.


>
> Has anyone had any success with either of the above methods on a 306 or
> should I just not be lazy and remove the whole driveshaft from the car?
>
> Any thoughts appreciated...
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>

"reg"  wrote in message
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>
> "Chris Howarth" <a@a.e> wrote in message
> news:g7hwe.11468$%O1.10190@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
> > I've just noticed that the left-hand outer CV joint boot on my 1993 306
> has
> > split, throwing grease all around the rear of the hub.
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone has successfully replaced the outer boot on a
> 306
> > without removing the driveshaft from the car, and hence avoiding
draining
> > the transmission oil.
>
> yes its possible to do it by leaving the drive shaft in situ, from memory
> though i cant remember if they have a knock off joint or not ?
>
>
> >
> > Without removing the driveshaft I can see two options:
> >
> > 1. Cut the boot off and attempt to remove the outer part of the outer
> joint
> > whilst hoping that the inner joint's splines stay in the transmission.
> >
> > 2. Cut the boot off and attempt to fit a universal stretch boot using
the
> > special stretch cones that are available.
>
> we only use these stretch ones if we cant knock the outer joint off the
> driveshaft.
>
> >
> > Has anyone had any success with either of the above methods on a 306 or
> > should I just not be lazy and remove the whole driveshaft from the car?
> >
> > Any thoughts appreciated...
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Chris
> >


just an add on don't use those split boot kits you can get that you glue
together, they are crap. we've had a couple come through the workshop lately
after the customer has fitted it & the things have just come unglued and
sprayed all their grease everywhere & they have ended up having the job done
properly.

"reg"  wrote in message 
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>> yes its possible to do it by leaving the drive shaft in situ, from memory
>> though i cant remember if they have a knock off joint or not ?


On my car, according the HBOL, the outer section of the outer joint is held 
in place by a circlip so in theory it should be possible to remove the outer 
section with the driveshaft in place. However I'm not too sure how much 
force would be required to remove the outer part of the joint and whether I 
would just end up knocking the shaft out of the transmission.



>> we only use these stretch ones if we cant knock the outer joint off the
>> driveshaft.


Is there a reason that you don't use the stretch boots, or is it that you 
prefer to use the original parts if possible?



> just an add on don't use those split boot kits you can get that you glue
> together, they are crap. we've had a couple come through the workshop 
> lately
> after the customer has fitted it & the things have just come unglued and
> sprayed all their grease everywhere & they have ended up having the job 
> done
> properly.


They sound like dreadful things. I haven't seen them but I'll definitely 
avoid them!

Thanks for your advice.

Chris

"Chris Howarth" <a@a.e> wrote in message
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> "reg"  wrote in message
> news:d9sa38$hf2$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> >> yes its possible to do it by leaving the drive shaft in situ, from
memory
> >> though i cant remember if they have a knock off joint or not ?
>
> On my car, according the HBOL, the outer section of the outer joint is
held
> in place by a circlip so in theory it should be possible to remove the
outer
> section with the driveshaft in place. However I'm not too sure how much
> force would be required to remove the outer part of the joint and whether
I
> would just end up knocking the shaft out of the transmission.
>
>
> >> we only use these stretch ones if we cant knock the outer joint off the
> >> driveshaft.
>
> Is there a reason that you don't use the stretch boots, or is it that you
> prefer to use the original parts if possible?
>
>
> > just an add on don't use those split boot kits you can get that you glue
> > together, they are crap. we've had a couple come through the workshop
> > lately
> > after the customer has fitted it & the things have just come unglued and
> > sprayed all their grease everywhere & they have ended up having the job
> > done
> > properly.
>
> They sound like dreadful things. I haven't seen them but I'll definitely
> avoid them!
>
> Thanks for your advice.
>
> Chris
>

the reason we don't use the stretch ones very often is they seem to made of
a thinner rubber and more prone to debris damage, they don't seem as tough,
but that's only a personal preference.

the joint shouldn't take too much to knock it off, I usually use a plastic
dum dum hammer to avoid any damage to the joint housing or a brass drift if
I need to hit a bit harder, get someone to hold the shaft for you while you
hit it with the hammer.
it should also tap on quite easy, but be careful when you hit the end of the
joint when re-fitting, its a good idea to put the shaft nut back on , saves
any damage to the thread.