Tried it today, and it hasn't worked out very well.  I now need to
replace a cylinder (just the one).  We unscrewed the bleed valve thing,
but the thing's still sealed, it fell apart.  It was just one of the
rears and it's not leaking.  So I still need to replace the brake fluid
in that wheel.

The Eezibleed thing wasn't quite so eezi either because it was leaking
a bit.  Don't know whether I was using the wrong washer?  After
finishing the brake fluid level was a bit too low (and the warning
light came on occasionally when driving), so I needed to open my 2nd
bottle of brake fluid.  Will this 2nd bottle of brake fluid still be OK
next week if I keep it sealed?  You maybe wondering why it was below
min.  The problem is that it wasn't as simple as just pouring it in.
Because of the leak the Eezibleed was continuously putting more and
more oil in, and would've eventually overflowed.

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> Tried it today, and it hasn't worked out very well.  I now need to
> replace a cylinder (just the one).  We unscrewed the bleed valve thing,
> but the thing's still sealed, it fell apart.  It was just one of the
> rears and it's not leaking.  So I still need to replace the brake fluid
> in that wheel.


?
You undid the bleed nipple, no fluid came out, and then the cylinder fell
apart?

You do know you only have to undo the nipple about half a turn or so, don't
you?


> The Eezibleed thing wasn't quite so eezi either because it was leaking
> a bit.  Don't know whether I was using the wrong washer?


You probably had too much pressure in the tyre. You need something like 10 -
15psi at most, IIRC, should tell you in the instructions.

  After

> finishing the brake fluid level was a bit too low (and the warning
> light came on occasionally when driving), so I needed to open my 2nd
> bottle of brake fluid.


I'd just like to point this bit out to everyone who thougt I was being
over-careful telling Peter to quadruple check, etc. Anyone with even an
eight of a brain might have checked the resevoir level *before* driving.

  Will this 2nd bottle of brake fluid still be OK

> next week if I keep it sealed?  You maybe wondering why it was below
> min.  The problem is that it wasn't as simple as just pouring it in.


Other people  might say no, but personally I'd be happy to use the already
opened bottle, so long as you've put the top on properly (I'm not holding
out much hope).


> Because of the leak the Eezibleed was continuously putting more and
> more oil in, and would've eventually overflowed.


You mean the leak in the Ezibleed? Use less pressure, and how can a leak
mean things would overflow? It's no more likely to happen that way than if
it wasn't leaking, you're not suppose to just bugger off and watch a bit of
telly while it magically does everything for you. In fact, I'd say an
Ezibleed is far too complicated a device for you to be trying to use. One of
those pipes with a valve would be better for you I reckon.

Stuffed wrote:

>  wrote in message
> news:1119796414.088511.102550@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Tried it today, and it hasn't worked out very well.  I now need to
> > replace a cylinder (just the one).  We unscrewed the bleed valve thing,
> > but the thing's still sealed, it fell apart.  It was just one of the
> > rears and it's not leaking.  So I still need to replace the brake fluid
> > in that wheel.
>
> ?
> You undid the bleed nipple, no fluid came out, and then the cylinder fell
> apart?


No we were trying to undo it, and it wouldn't undo.  The thing came
out, but it didn't undo.


> You do know you only have to undo the nipple about half a turn or so, don't
> you?


Yeah, the back ones were bad, I could only just undo one of them, and
the other broke :-(.


> > The Eezibleed thing wasn't quite so eezi either because it was leaking
> > a bit.  Don't know whether I was using the wrong washer?
>
> You probably had too much pressure in the tyre. You need something like 10 -
> 15psi at most, IIRC, should tell you in the instructions.


20psi max, in the end I was down to around 10psi.


>   After
> > finishing the brake fluid level was a bit too low (and the warning
> > light came on occasionally when driving), so I needed to open my 2nd
> > bottle of brake fluid.
>
> I'd just like to point this bit out to everyone who thougt I was being
> over-careful telling Peter to quadruple check, etc. Anyone with even an
> eight of a brain might have checked the resevoir level *before* driving.


I did check it, and it wasn't bad!


>   Will this 2nd bottle of brake fluid still be OK
> > next week if I keep it sealed?  You maybe wondering why it was below
> > min.  The problem is that it wasn't as simple as just pouring it in.
>
> Other people  might say no, but personally I'd be happy to use the already
> opened bottle, so long as you've put the top on properly (I'm not holding
> out much hope).
>
> > Because of the leak the Eezibleed was continuously putting more and
> > more oil in, and would've eventually overflowed.
>
> You mean the leak in the Ezibleed? Use less pressure, and how can a leak
> mean things would overflow?


As the air escapes out of the resevoir more brake fluid is sucked in.
Eventually the brake fluid will start escaping instead of the air.


> It's no more likely to happen that way than if
> it wasn't leaking, you're not suppose to just bugger off and watch a bit of
> telly while it magically does everything for you. In fact, I'd say an
> Ezibleed is far too complicated a device for you to be trying to use. One of
> those pipes with a valve would be better for you I reckon.

In article ,
    wrote:

> The Eezibleed thing wasn't quite so eezi either because it was leaking
> a bit.  Don't know whether I was using the wrong washer?


Was it leaking from the cap that fits the master cylinder reservoir? If
so, there's sometimes a groove to let air in on the top edge of the thread.

And you did drop the spare tyre pressure down to under 20psi?


>  After finishing the brake fluid level was a bit too low (and the
> warning light came on occasionally when driving), so I needed to open my
> 2nd bottle of brake fluid.  Will this 2nd bottle of brake fluid still be
> OK next week if I keep it sealed?  You maybe wondering why it was below
> min.  The problem is that it wasn't as simple as just pouring it in.
> Because of the leak the Eezibleed was continuously putting more and more
> oil in, and would've eventually overflowed.


It can't put more fluid in than the reservoir holds. You've got to keep an
eye on the Eezibleed one though as it empties pretty quickly. If you don't
and you let the master one empty too, you have to start again. ;-)

-- 
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    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
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In article ,  
says...

> Tried it today, and it hasn't worked out very well. 


You were told. 


> I now need to
> replace a cylinder (just the one).  We unscrewed the bleed valve thing,
> but the thing's still sealed, it fell apart.  It was just one of the
> rears and it's not leaking.  So I still need to replace the brake fluid
> in that wheel.


As well as get the air out.

> 
> The Eezibleed thing wasn't quite so eezi either because it was leaking
> a bit.  Don't know whether I was using the wrong washer?  After
> finishing the brake fluid level was a bit too low (and the warning
> light came on occasionally when driving), so I needed to open my 2nd
> bottle of brake fluid.  Will this 2nd bottle of brake fluid still be OK
> next week if I keep it sealed?  You maybe wondering why it was below
> min.  The problem is that it wasn't as simple as just pouring it in.
> Because of the leak the Eezibleed was continuously putting more and
> more oil in, and would've eventually overflowed.
> 

Peter. PAY SOMEBODY TO SORT IT OUT. Neither you or your father have 
enough knowledge to do it. THIS IS A SAFETY CRITICAL SYSTEM. You can't 
afford to fuck it up or you and others can get seriously injured/killed 
when you find out at 60MPH that it wasn't quite done properly.


-- 
Conor

-You wanted an argument? Oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse. You want room 
K5, just along the corridor. Stupid git. (Monty Python)

In article ,  
says...

> 
> Stuffed wrote:
> >  wrote in message
> > news:1119796414.088511.102550@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > Tried it today, and it hasn't worked out very well.  I now need to
> > > replace a cylinder (just the one).  We unscrewed the bleed valve thing,
> > > but the thing's still sealed, it fell apart.  It was just one of the
> > > rears and it's not leaking.  So I still need to replace the brake fluid
> > > in that wheel.
> >
> > ?
> > You undid the bleed nipple, no fluid came out, and then the cylinder fell
> > apart?
> 
> No we were trying to undo it, and it wouldn't undo.  The thing came
> out, but it didn't undo.
> 

You snapped it. Now you need a new cylinder. You'll probably find the 
brakepipe feeding the cylinder will snap meaning you need one of those 
too.

In short, 30 for a fluid change at a garage would have been cheaper, 
quicker and a damned sight more safer.


-- 
Conor

-You wanted an argument? Oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse. You want room 
K5, just along the corridor. Stupid git. (Monty Python)

wrote in message
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> Tried it today, and it hasn't worked out very well.  I now need to
> replace a cylinder (just the one).  We unscrewed the bleed valve thing,
> but the thing's still sealed, it fell apart.  It was just one of the
> rears and it's not leaking.  So I still need to replace the brake fluid
> in that wheel.
>
> The Eezibleed thing wasn't quite so eezi either because it was leaking
> a bit.  Don't know whether I was using the wrong washer?  After
> finishing the brake fluid level was a bit too low (and the warning
> light came on occasionally when driving), so I needed to open my 2nd
> bottle of brake fluid.  Will this 2nd bottle of brake fluid still be OK
> next week if I keep it sealed?  You maybe wondering why it was below
> min.  The problem is that it wasn't as simple as just pouring it in.
> Because of the leak the Eezibleed was continuously putting more and
> more oil in, and would've eventually overflowed.
>


It's not that big a deal. If the brakes are still working ok and the
cylinder isn't leaking, I would leave it until the cylinder needs changing
anyway. Then you can have a new cylinder and fresh fluid to hand, along with
a brake pipe, or your trusty brake pipe flaring kit.

Steve

Conor wrote:

> In article ,  
> says...
> 
>>Stuffed wrote:
>>
>>> wrote in message
>>>news:1119796414.088511.102550@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>>Tried it today, and it hasn't worked out very well.  I now need to
>>>>replace a cylinder (just the one).  We unscrewed the bleed valve thing,
>>>>but the thing's still sealed, it fell apart.  It was just one of the
>>>>rears and it's not leaking.  So I still need to replace the brake fluid
>>>>in that wheel.
>>>
>>>?
>>>You undid the bleed nipple, no fluid came out, and then the cylinder fell
>>>apart?
>>
>>No we were trying to undo it, and it wouldn't undo.  The thing came
>>out, but it didn't undo.
>>
> 
> You snapped it. Now you need a new cylinder. You'll probably find the 
> brakepipe feeding the cylinder will snap meaning you need one of those 
> too.
> 
> In short, 30 for a fluid change at a garage would have been cheaper, 
> quicker and a damned sight more safer.
> 
> 


Yes, don't ever try anything yourself.

Like making mistakes is a bad thing? heh.

"T."  wrote in message 
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> Conor wrote:
>> In short, 30 for a fluid change at a garage would have been cheaper, 
>> quicker and a damned sight more safer.
>>
> Yes, don't ever try anything yourself.
>
> Like making mistakes is a bad thing? heh.


Well...  yes and no.

Maybe do stuff that isn't safety critical *first*?

flush the radiator, change the stat etc. That way you learn how to deal with 
the real world problems (stuck nipples oo-err etc.). I didn't do brake work 
until I'd practically rebuilt my first Escrote engine.

In article <42bf2e44$0$16470$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, T. says...


> Yes, don't ever try anything yourself.
> 
> Like making mistakes is a bad thing? heh.
> 

What a dickhead. When its brakes yes, mistakes are a bad thing.

-- 
Conor

-You wanted an argument? Oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse. You want room 
K5, just along the corridor. Stupid git. (Monty Python)

T. (nntp-DOT-dump@zen.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying : 


> Yes, don't ever try anything yourself.
> 
> Like making mistakes is a bad thing? heh.


This is Peter. It was a foregone conclusion he'd break it.

Conor (conor.turton@gmail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they 
were saying :


> When its brakes yes, mistakes are a bad thing.


Although if the brake pipe's going to snap, it needed replacing anyway. If 
the nipple snapped, then the cylinder's probably getting towards the end of 
it's life anyway.

Adrian wrote:

> Conor (conor.turton@gmail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying :
>
> > When its brakes yes, mistakes are a bad thing.
>
> Although if the brake pipe's going to snap, it needed replacing anyway. If
> the nipple snapped, then the cylinder's probably getting towards the end of
> it's life anyway.


I think it was going to snap anyway.  It was all dirty there anyway,
and the nut wasn't gonna come undone without a fight.  The fronts came
undone easily, but the other rear was a nightmare.  As I started to
undo it, it got tighter again.  There was obviously some dirt in it
making it difficult.  I drove the car 30 miles today, and the brakes
seem fine.  Either I'm getting used to the brakes or they are starting
to work better too.