OK. I know I've been out of the UK for a long time and I'm aware that
language changes over time but I keep seeing references to the word
"ticker" in certain threads and I haven't a clue what it refers to in 
this case. Can someone enlighten this poor refugee?

Wayne
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Wayne wrote:


> OK. I know I've been out of the UK for a long time and I'm aware that
> language changes over time but I keep seeing references to the word
> "ticker" in certain threads and I haven't a clue what it refers to in 
> this case. Can someone enlighten this poor refugee?


I suppose another term would be 'anoraks'. Basically, they are people 
who attend beer outlets (esp. beer festivals) with the intention of 
tasting as many different beers as possible, often without regard for 
their quality. This is evidenced by their pouring beers into 'Panda' 
bottles (a small, commercial, soft drink), for consumption at home, or 
maybe at some mystical gathering of similar souls - who knows? That way, 
they can 'tick' the beers off their lists as 'tasted', hence 'tickers'
But - hey! It's a big world, and we're all allowed to enjoy ourselves as 
we see fit, just so long as it doesn't frighten the horses.
HTH
KeithS

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:03:47 +0100, KeithS wrote:


>> OK. I know I've been out of the UK for a long time and I'm aware that
>> language changes over time but I keep seeing references to the word
>> "ticker" in certain threads and I haven't a clue what it refers to in
>> this case. Can someone enlighten this poor refugee?
> 
> I suppose another term would be 'anoraks'. Basically, they are people who
> attend beer outlets (esp. beer festivals) with the intention of tasting as
> many different beers as possible, often without regard for their quality.
> This is evidenced by their pouring beers into 'Panda' bottles (a small,
> commercial, soft drink), for consumption at home, or maybe at some
> mystical gathering of similar souls - who knows? That way, they can 'tick'
> the beers off their lists as 'tasted', hence 'tickers' But - hey! It's a
> big world, and we're all allowed to enjoy ourselves as we see fit, just so
> long as it doesn't frighten the horses. HTH


Thanks for the info Keith. I'll tick it off as a new meaning on an
old word like I did when my brother kept asking me if I had any
smash instead of asking for small change. I couldn't figure out 
for the life of me why he wanted some instant mashed potato!

I always thought of "anoraks" as geeks or nerds or as we say in Japan
"Otaku"

Umm, good beer in a plastic bottle? Methinks not, unless you're
drinking in a public place and don't want to be caught by the bill :-)
Actually, drinking in public places (parks) is quite normal here,
especially in spring when the cherry blossoms bloom, but that's a
different thread.

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Wayne wrote:

> 
> OK. I know I've been out of the UK for a long time and I'm aware that
> language changes over time but I keep seeing references to the word
> "ticker" in certain threads and I haven't a clue what it refers to in
> this case. Can someone enlighten this poor refugee?


Furtive looking train, err I mean 'beer' spotters huddled over little
notebooks using stubby pencils, who  enjoy vinegar from panda bottles,
so long as each sip has a different name.
AKA scoopers or sad gits ;-)

John B

KeithS wrote:

> Wayne wrote:
>
> This is evidenced by their pouring beers into 'Panda'
> bottles (a small, commercial, soft drink), for consumption at home,


I've never understood that bit, can someone explain what it is about?

-- 

Brett

Brett... wrote:


>>This is evidenced by their pouring beers into 'Panda'
>>bottles (a small, commercial, soft drink), for consumption at home,
> 
> 
> I've never understood that bit, can someone explain what it is about?
> 


Maturation, Brett, maturation ;-)

Nah, I suppose they couldn't possibly drink the quantity of different 
ales available at any one beer fest, so they have to take it home(?) and 
drink it over the next few days. I've seen one with some sort of wheelie 
cart to carry all his Panda bottles. Gawd knows what state the beer was 
in when he finally got around to finishing it all.
Possibly the plastic bottle (and especially the cap liner which, in many 
fizzy drinks seems to absorb the aroma of the soft drink) adds to the 
pleasure of it all.
Oh, a pint of lager and lime please barman:)

In article <42bc2d17$0$41919$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>,
   Brett...  wrote:

> KeithS wrote:
> > Wayne wrote:
> >
> > This is evidenced by their pouring beers into 'Panda'
> > bottles (a small, commercial, soft drink), for consumption at home,

> I've never understood that bit, can someone explain what it is about?


No?
Basic rule for the weirdos that tick is that they can't officially tick it
off as a drink they have had unless they have drunk at least half a pint.
A panda pop bottle will hold a half pint.
They can fill several bottles and then drink them at home rather than deal
with a surfeit of alcohol while out.

The fact that they will often be drink old, stale beer from a plastic
bottle that as a result bears no resemblance to the original product
doesn't seem to matter to them.

Personally speaking I have a rule about drinking a beer I don't recall
having before - do it.
Of course if I drink enough I forget I have and then have to do it again.
Oh dear, what a shame. :-)

-- 
Steve Pampling

In message , Wayne 
 wrote

>OK. I know I've been out of the UK for a long time and I'm aware that
>language changes over time but I keep seeing references to the word
>"ticker" in certain threads and I haven't a clue what it refers to in
>this case. Can someone enlighten this poor refugee?
>


It's to beer what train spotting is to the rail industry.

The ticker mentality has got so bad in the UK that you can NEVER find 
the same beer form small breweries again as the brewers change the name 
of their beer every week to maintain the ticker market share.


-- 
Alan
mailto:news2me_a_2003@amacleod.clara.co.uk

Steven Pampling wrote:

>>>
>>> This is evidenced by their pouring beers into 'Panda'
>>> bottles (a small, commercial, soft drink), for consumption at home,
>
>> I've never understood that bit, can someone explain what it is about?
>
> No?
> Basic rule for the weirdos that tick is that they can't officially
> tick it off as a drink they have had unless they have drunk at least
> half a pint. A panda pop bottle will hold a half pint.
> They can fill several bottles and then drink them at home rather than
> deal with a surfeit of alcohol while out.
>
> The fact that they will often be drink old, stale beer from a plastic
> bottle that as a result bears no resemblance to the original product
> doesn't seem to matter to them.
>



Honestly Steve, I never understood why they did did it. I thought they kept 
those little bottles as a memento or something.
It still sounds pretty disgusting all the same.

-- 

Brett

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:29:35 +0100, Alan wrote:


> It's to beer what train spotting is to the rail industry.
> 
> The ticker mentality has got so bad in the UK that you can NEVER find the
> same beer form small breweries again as the brewers change the name of
> their beer every week to maintain the ticker market share.


Sigh... Well at least I understand the meaning, although I don't
think I'll ever understand the reason/motivation :-)

Wayne
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:32:50 +0100, JohnB wrote:


> Furtive looking train, err I mean 'beer' spotters huddled over little
> notebooks using stubby pencils, who  enjoy vinegar from panda bottles, so
> long as each sip has a different name. AKA scoopers or sad gits ;-)


Got it, thanks.

Wayne
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Wayne wrote:

>
>> It's to beer what train spotting is to the rail industry.
>>
>> The ticker mentality has got so bad in the UK that you can NEVER
>> find the same beer form small breweries again as the brewers change
>> the name of their beer every week to maintain the ticker market
>> share.
>


Personally I don't think there are actually that many of them around. At 
most I would guess that their numbers are in the hundreds which compared 
with the number of real ale drinkers in the UK is statistically meaningless. 
They do stand out in pubs or at beer festivals. Therefore I would be 
surprised if breweries are deliberately bringing out new brews (something I 
think is getting OTT) for such a small group. Maybe the ticker mentality is 
spreading? I've never thought of it as a contagious activity.

It is strange that the tickers seem to congregrate. For example, the 
discussions here seems to indicate that UFRA is mainly ticker free. However 
after a few days reading the cask-uk group on Yahoogroups, you will note the 
presence of a number of tickers. You do start to see a lot of the same names 
popping up though.
One of them has written an eye-opener into their life here 
http://www.scoopergen.co.uk/scooping.htm.

-- 

Brett

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:00:59 +0100, Brett... wrote:


> Personally I don't think there are actually that many of them around. At
> most I would guess that their numbers are in the hundreds which compared
> with the number of real ale drinkers in the UK is statistically
> meaningless. They do stand out in pubs or at beer festivals. Therefore I
> would be surprised if breweries are deliberately bringing out new brews
> (something I think is getting OTT) for such a small group. Maybe the
> ticker mentality is spreading? I've never thought of it as a contagious
> activity.
> 
> It is strange that the tickers seem to congregrate. For example, the
> discussions here seems to indicate that UFRA is mainly ticker free.
> However after a few days reading the cask-uk group on Yahoogroups, you
> will note the presence of a number of tickers. You do start to see a lot
> of the same names popping up though.
> One of them has written an eye-opener into their life here
> http://www.scoopergen.co.uk/scooping.htm.


I'm kinda getting worried. I also like trying new beers, although I
wouldn't go halfway around the contry for one. Whilst we were in
London we were taking notes of the beers we drunk and (apart from
ESB and a handpumped stout) never had the same beer twice. The notes
we took were for ABV, colour, aroma, body and taste but were for a
practical purpose; so we could recreate a "British" bitter when my
friend returns from Chicago/Hawaii with locally sourced ingredients.
I hope this doesn't mean we carry the ticker "disease" :-)

Actually, we will be venturing out of Tokyo soon to visit a craft
(micro) brewery in Numazu (not too far) The (American) brewer there
produces some very good stuff and at the moment has a "summer tangerine"
beer we're interested in trying. It's called "Natsumikan Ale"

http://www.bairdbeer.com/home.html

If anyone is interested in what goes on outside Blighty.

There's one Japanese brewer here who constantly wins awards and
constantly makes sour beer who learned at Green King. After
trying their IPA I'm not surprised that his beer sux so bad. At
a recent event I asked him if he thought his beer was in bad
condition and he replied it was OK. He later told my friend
that the beer was in bad condition. 

Now, this is getting way OT! Back to my crappy Kirin......

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Brett wrote:


> Steven Pampling wrote:

>>>>This is evidenced by their pouring beers into 'Panda'
>>>>bottles (a small, commercial, soft drink), for consumption at home,
>>>I've never understood that bit, can someone explain what it is about?

>>No?
>>Basic rule for the weirdos that tick is that they can't officially
>>tick it off as a drink they have had unless they have drunk at least
>>half a pint. A panda pop bottle will hold a half pint.
>>They can fill several bottles and then drink them at home rather than
>>deal with a surfeit of alcohol while out.

>>The fact that they will often be drink old, stale beer from a plastic
>>bottle that as a result bears no resemblance to the original product
>>doesn't seem to matter to them.

> Honestly Steve, I never understood why they did did it. I thought they kept 
> those little bottles as a memento or something.
> It still sounds pretty disgusting all the same.


It certainly is. Particularly when they are rating your ale on a beer
website. After a beer tasting a friend and I gave at a local gent's
home, we left the host with a growler of one of our beers (drawn off a
pony keg), warning that it would only be on form for 24 hours, max. So
what does this fine gent do? Four days later he takes it down to
Montral, where some ticker chums of his are dying to add it to their
lists, and rate it on RateBeer.com. The ale, Corporal Punishment, had
just snuck into second place on the website's rating for American brown
ales. (The ale is a little outside the style, really... too hoppy and at
the far end of bitterness for an American brown, but it really doesn't
fit any other style, either.) Anyway, to make a long story short, three
of the tickers rate the decidedly sub-par beer and our rating plummets.

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:28:20 +0900, Wayne  wrote:



>
>I'm kinda getting worried. I also like trying new beers, although I
>wouldn't go halfway around the contry for one. Whilst we were in
>London we were taking notes of the beers we drunk and (apart from
>ESB and a handpumped stout) never had the same beer twice. The notes
>we took were for ABV, colour, aroma, body and taste but were for a
>practical purpose; so we could recreate a "British" bitter when my
>friend returns from Chicago/Hawaii with locally sourced ingredients.
>I hope this doesn't mean we carry the ticker "disease" :-)
>




I'm not one of those that sits in a huddle around a table a festivals
and would not dream of filling plastic bottles. I would only drink
beers that had come straight from the cask.
But I regard myself as a ticker insomuch that I like trying new beers
and I record the ones I've tasted which I put on a database so at
future festivals, I know what I've already tried.
I don't go out of my may to try new beers but if I find something new
on my travels then its a bonus.


Dave

Brett... a crit :


>Honestly Steve, I never understood why they did did it. I thought they kept 
>those little bottles as a memento or something.
>It still sounds pretty disgusting all the same.
>  
>

Reminds me of a stint I did at the dor at York Beer Fest a few years 
ago. I'd noticed tickers at it with panda bottles, and I turned into a 
nuisance, reminding them we only had an on-premises licence. The results 
were hilarious : utter denial of filling bottles, and continuing panda 
bottle ritual. but under the tables. :o)


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#include <42bf1ba1$1_3@news.bluewin.ch>


>Brett... a crit :
>
>>Honestly Steve, I never understood why they did did it. I thought they kept 
>>those little bottles as a memento or something.
>>It still sounds pretty disgusting all the same.
>>  
>>
>Reminds me of a stint I did at the dor at York Beer Fest a few years 
>ago. I'd noticed tickers at it with panda bottles, and I turned into a 
>nuisance, reminding them we only had an on-premises licence. The results 
>were hilarious : utter denial of filling bottles, and continuing panda 
>bottle ritual. but under the tables. :o)


Ah, good times eh? I always insisted that customers who actually drank
the beer got served first, and bring your own f*cking funnels - we're
not wasting beer.

Rich (who's been busy, sorry Laurent)
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It is faster to make a four-inch mirror then a six-inch mirror than to make
a six-inch mirror.

    - "Programming Pearls", Communications of the ACM, Sep. 1985

In message <42bf1ba1$1_3@news.bluewin.ch>, The Submarine Captain 
 writes


>>It still sounds pretty disgusting all the same.
>>
>Reminds me of a stint I did at the dor at York Beer Fest a few years 
>ago. I'd noticed tickers at it with panda bottles, and I turned into a 
>nuisance, reminding them we only had an on-premises licence. The 
>results were hilarious : utter denial of filling bottles, and 
>continuing panda bottle ritual. but under the tables. :o)
>
>

Technically those are "bottlers".  Normal tickers and scratchers don't 
do that.  You'd think they'd use mineral water bottles, too.
There don't seem to be very many of them, we get the same handful at 
every Reading Beerex.

-- 
Sue  ];(:)

MadCow wrote:

> In message <42bf1ba1$1_3@news.bluewin.ch>, The Submarine Captain
>  writes
>
>>> It still sounds pretty disgusting all the same.
>>>
>> Reminds me of a stint I did at the dor at York Beer Fest a few years
>> ago. I'd noticed tickers at it with panda bottles, and I turned into
>> a nuisance, reminding them we only had an on-premises licence. The
>> results were hilarious : utter denial of filling bottles, and
>> continuing panda bottle ritual. but under the tables. :o)
>>
>>
> Technically those are "bottlers".  Normal tickers and scratchers don't
> do that.  You'd think they'd use mineral water bottles, too.
> There don't seem to be very many of them, we get the same handful at
> every Reading Beerex.


As bottlers are simply a sub group of tickers, Laurent is technically 
correct.
Taxonomy for tickers anyone?


From scoopgen:
Scoopers, tickers, beer bashers, ale neds, scratchers . what do they all 
mean? Well, simplistically, they all mean the same thing; someone who 
records the beers he drinks and has a running total.  In the real world the 
names actually have slightly different meanings, depending on where you live 
and who you listen to;
Scoopers - I take to mean people who care a bit more about the beers than 
just ticking them off.  They may make tasting notes, rate the beers or 
similar.  It's all a bit arbitrary, but this is my view on the subject and, 
as it's my website, that's what I'm putting here, right?
Tickers - Tends to be a Northern name, but I take to mean those who simply 
drink a beer, mark it off, forget it, and then drink another.  Basically, 
those who care more about numbers than taste - but not necessarily!
Beer Bashers - This phrase came from the railway fraternity, as did about 
75% of scoopers, although this number is lower nowadays.  The section of 
rail enthusiasts who became scoopers was mainly the "bashers", who travelled 
around on their favourite engines to all parts of the UK, and therefore had 
a few beers whilst waiting for their next engine; this gradually evolved 
into scooping - or did they just copy it from those who had been scooping 
for years? We'll never know, but I certainly got into scooping via this 
route.  The phrase is hardly heard anymore.
Beer/Ale neds - This is really the same as beer bashers.  A "Ned" is someone 
who is "desperate" for a "winner", and to differentiate from train neds, the 
name "beer ned" was invented.  Again, not really used any more.
Scratchers - Not sure where this came from, but it's fairly commonly used in 
the south.  It seems to describe the actual marking off of beers, so I'm 
assuming it's got a similar meaning to "tickers".

-- 

Brett

Wayne wrote:


> OK. I know I've been out of the UK for a long time and I'm aware that
> language changes over time but I keep seeing references to the word
> "ticker" in certain threads and I haven't a clue what it refers to in
> this case. Can someone enlighten this poor refugee?
>
> Wayne



I was going to use the following in a future newsletter to 'wind-up'
the 'Ticker's' and especially all the 'Bottler's' we know ... it says
it all really !  ;o)

***

OK, You have a choice, which one do you take ?

Choice 1
"Pulled fresh, it has a crystal clear golden appearance, a bitter with
floral citric hop aroma. It has a hoppy predominate taste which is
slightly sweet and fruity and leaves you wanting more, much more.
You drink this Beer just as the Brewer intended it to be ... FRESH !"


Choice 2
"Stored in plastic bottles, sometimes for literally weeks on end, warm
and way out of condition, with an overpowering taste of an old crypt,
lined with damp cardboard, soaked in vinegar and TCP, it would rip the
toenails off the even the most ardent Belgian Gueuze drinker. When
poured, the TCP / Vinegar overtones strip out your nasal passages, and
leaves your tongue wishing it had been cut out with a blunt rusty razor
blade. Drunk purely for the selfish purpose of gaining  a 'Tick'
.... just to say "I've had it" ... and bugger the condition, and the
Brewer's original thoughts on freshness"

Boy ... am I glad I don't 'Bottle' !

Dave
Sec-RAT-ary
Real Ale Tasting Society - R.A.T.S. ®
www.the-rats.org

MadCow a crit :


> In message <42bf1ba1$1_3@news.bluewin.ch>, The Submarine Captain 
>  writes
>
>>> It still sounds pretty disgusting all the same.
>>>
>> Reminds me of a stint I did at the dor at York Beer Fest a few years 
>> ago. I'd noticed tickers at it with panda bottles, and I turned into 
>> a nuisance, reminding them we only had an on-premises licence. The 
>> results were hilarious : utter denial of filling bottles, and 
>> continuing panda bottle ritual. but under the tables. :o)
>>
>>
> Technically those are "bottlers".  Normal tickers and scratchers don't 
> do that.  You'd think they'd use mineral water bottles, too.
> There don't seem to be very many of them, we get the same handful at 
> every Reading Beerex.
>

Same sh*t, different name. :o)

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(F'murrr)

Laurent Mousson, Berne, Switzerland

In message , The 
Sec-RAT-ary  writes


>"Stored in plastic bottles, sometimes for literally weeks on end, warm
>and way out of condition, with an overpowering taste of an old crypt,
>lined with damp cardboard, soaked in vinegar and TCP, it would rip the
>toenails off the even the most ardent Belgian Gueuze drinker. When


Well, on the other hand, at the end of most festivals I take a couple of 
gallons of beer home in plastic cider containers, carefully sterilised 
after each use.  It keeps OK for up to a week in a cold place.   And we 
actually sell carryouts in new plastic milk jugs (regardless of the 
small print on our licences).

Has anyone got PROOF that bottlers use unclean cherryade bottles, let 
the beer get warm and keep it for weeks?

-- 
Sue  ];(:)

MadCow wrote:

> In message 

> Has anyone got PROOF that bottlers use unclean cherryade bottles, let
> the beer get warm and keep it for weeks?
>
> --
> Sue  ];(:)


Can't remark about the "unclean cherryade bottles" although I have seen
some decidedly 'dodgy' ones that I certainly wouldn't like to drink
from !  But "warm beer" and "kept for weeks" ... Yes, I have (or should
I say 'had') proof, and I didn't make those remarks in my original post
just for effect, it's actually happened !

A 'shopping trolley' full of 'Panda's' left in the boot of a car in the
height of (one) summer for several days before the contents were
collected and consumed, a prime example of 'warm beer' ?

Also I know for a fact that 'Panda's' were regularly put aside for
certain 'bottlers', and they weren't collected for anything up to 3
weeks at a time ! You can't honestly say that the Beer, (any Beer), is
in tip-top condition after just those two (true) examples above ?

I've actually refused to serve a very well known 'bottler' at the Great
Welsh BF in Cardiff one year, and this guy was literally pleading with
me to sell it to him, despite the fact that it had been CONDEMNED and
was labelled up as such ! He finally admitted that he didn't actually
care what it tasted like, he just HAD to have this 'tick' ! I still
refused to serve him.

'Nuff said ... after spending a really great day at the Devizes Beer &
Cider Fest. and 4 hours travelling home by bus and train, I'm off to
bed !

Cheerzzzzzzzzz ...

Dave
The Sec-RAT-ary
R.A.T.S.

"The Sec-RAT-ary"  wrote in message 
news:1120339828.654766.24750@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>> Can't remark about the "unclean cherryade bottles" although I have seen
> some decidedly 'dodgy' ones that I certainly wouldn't like to drink
> from !  But "warm beer" and "kept for weeks" ... Yes, I have (or should
> I say 'had') proof, and I didn't make those remarks in my original post
> just for effect, it's actually happened !
>
> A 'shopping trolley' full of 'Panda's' left in the boot of a car in the
> height of (one) summer for several days before the contents were
> collected and consumed, a prime example of 'warm beer' ?
>
> Also I know for a fact that 'Panda's' were regularly put aside for
> certain 'bottlers', and they weren't collected for anything up to 3
> weeks at a time ! You can't honestly say that the Beer, (any Beer), is
> in tip-top condition after just those two (true) examples above ?
>
> I've actually refused to serve a very well known 'bottler' at the Great
> Welsh BF in Cardiff one year, and this guy was literally pleading with
> me to sell it to him, despite the fact that it had been CONDEMNED and
> was labelled up as such ! He finally admitted that he didn't actually
> care what it tasted like, he just HAD to have this 'tick' ! I still
> refused to serve him.
>
> 'Nuff said ... after spending a really great day at the Devizes Beer &
> Cider Fest. and 4 hours travelling home by bus and train, I'm off to
> bed !
>
> Cheerzzzzzzzzz ...
>
> Dave
> The Sec-RAT-ary
> R.A.T.S.



I seem to recall someone at Cardiff "topping up" a few bottles of bottler 
beer with    erm.... "recycled" beer [at original body serving temperature] 
filled out in the carpark at Splott. No it wasn't me.!!

freeminer@tiscali.co.uk wrote:


> I seem to recall someone at Cardiff "topping up" a few bottles of bottler
> beer with    erm.... "recycled" beer [at original body serving temperature]
> filled out in the carpark at Splott. No it wasn't me.!!


And NO ... it wasn't me either !

Yes, I know the story well, and it still makes me shudder !

Our group were joined by a stranger at the old Cardiff Beer and Cider
festival that was held in the 'Star Centre' in Splott. He seemed quite
'normal' and turned out to be a 'good laugh', joining in with us on
every subject that was brought up. The topic turned to 'Ticking' and
'Bottling'. He literally HATED them, but at this stage we didn't know
by how much ?

We were later joined by another stranger, who appeared to be 'doing
something' under the table with funnel and bottles. Yes, it was a
'Bottler' !

The first stranger popped out of the festival for some 10 minutes or
so, and reappeared, and placed a full 'Panda Pop' bottle into the
backpack of the second stranger when he'd gone to the Bar. No one at
this stage took any real notice as we were too busy enjoying ourselves.

Now I know that you're all way ahead of me here as to what the contents
of that 'Panda' was, the clue was already in Don's post above, but in
our merry state, we only (and honestly) noticed the bottle going into
the bag, and didn't give a thought as to the contents.

The second stranger having seemingly gained all of his 'ticks' left.

The first stranger came back and sat down with us again, and was
enthusing about the 'Hancock's Five Five' so much so, that he offered
us all around the table a drink of it, which we did.

It was only when he was leaving, he told us what he'd done in the
bottle, and it dawned on us after he left our company, that we had all
drunk from this glass of 'Five Five' and the 'orrible thought ran
through our minds ... had he p*ssed in the glass as well ??? Several of
us were ill, myself included !

You don't half meet some really weird people at Beer Festivals ... and
people who p*ss in bottles !

(For those of you that don't know my sense of humour ... that last bit
*was* a joke  !)

Dave 
R.A.T.S.

In message , The 
Sec-RAT-ary  writes

>MadCow wrote:
>> In message 
>
>> Has anyone got PROOF that bottlers use unclean cherryade bottles, let
>> the beer get warm and keep it for weeks?
>>
>> --
>> Sue  ];(:)
>
>Can't remark about the "unclean cherryade bottles" although I have seen
>some decidedly 'dodgy' ones that I certainly wouldn't like to drink
>from !  But "warm beer" and "kept for weeks" ... Yes, I have (or should
>I say 'had') proof, and I didn't make those remarks in my original post
>just for effect, it's actually happened !
>
>A 'shopping trolley' full of 'Panda's' left in the boot of a car in the
>height of (one) summer for several days before the contents were
>collected and consumed, a prime example of 'warm beer' ?
>
>Also I know for a fact that 'Panda's' were regularly put aside for
>certain 'bottlers', and they weren't collected for anything up to 3
>weeks at a time ! You can't honestly say that the Beer, (any Beer), is
>in tip-top condition after just those two (true) examples above ?
>
>I've actually refused to serve a very well known 'bottler' at the Great
>Welsh BF in Cardiff one year, and this guy was literally pleading with
>me to sell it to him, despite the fact that it had been CONDEMNED and
>was labelled up as such ! He finally admitted that he didn't actually
>care what it tasted like, he just HAD to have this 'tick' ! I still
>refused to serve him.
>
>'Nuff said ... after spending a really great day at the Devizes Beer &
>Cider Fest. and 4 hours travelling home by bus and train, I'm off to
>bed !
>
>Cheerzzzzzzzzz ...
>
>Dave
>The Sec-RAT-ary
>R.A.T.S.
>

When you have seen 'mick the tick ' struggle home with his shopping 
trolley either he or his friends must be supping stale ale.
-- 
martyn dawe

In message , martyn dawe 
 writes

>>
>When you have seen 'mick the tick ' struggle home with his shopping 
>trolley either he or his friends must be supping stale ale.


OK, if he comes to Reading next year we'll put a bomb in his shopping 
trolley.

-- 
Sue  ]3(:)

MadCow wrote:

> In message , martyn dawe
>  writes
>>>
>> When you have seen 'mick the tick ' struggle home with his shopping
>> trolley either he or his friends must be supping stale ale.
>
> OK, if he comes to Reading next year we'll put a bomb in his shopping
> trolley.


Get help - you need it.

-- 

Brett

Re: Martyn Dawe's 'Mick the Tick' comment ...


>> When you have seen 'mick the tick ' struggle home with his shopping
>> trolley either he or his friends must be supping stale ale.



MadCow - (a very apt nickname if ever there was one !) - replied ...


> OK, if he comes to Reading next year we'll put a bomb in his shopping trolley


What an absolutely stupid and thoughtless remark to make considering
recent events in London !

Maybe when your medication kicks in, or when you've sobered up, you'll
read your posting again and be thoroughly ashamed of it and maybe
apologise ?

Brett is 100% correct ... you DO need help !

Dave

On Monday, in article 

>>I've actually refused to serve a very well known 'bottler' at the Great
>>Welsh BF in Cardiff one year, and this guy was literally pleading with
>>me to sell it to him, despite the fact that it had been CONDEMNED and
>>was labelled up as such ! He finally admitted that he didn't actually
>>care what it tasted like, he just HAD to have this 'tick' ! I still
>>refused to serve him.



If it would have made the man happy, why did you refuse?


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The Sec-RAT-ary wrote:

> Re: Martyn Dawe's 'Mick the Tick' comment ...
> 
> 
>>>When you have seen 'mick the tick ' struggle home with his shopping
>>>trolley either he or his friends must be supping stale ale.
> 
> 
> 
> MadCow - (a very apt nickname if ever there was one !) - replied ...
> 
> 
>>OK, if he comes to Reading next year we'll put a bomb in his shopping trolley
> 
> 
> What an absolutely stupid and thoughtless remark to make considering
> recent events in London !
> 
> Maybe when your medication kicks in, or when you've sobered up, you'll
> read your posting again and be thoroughly ashamed of it and maybe
> apologise ?
> 
> Brett is 100% correct ... you DO need help !
> 
> Dave
> 

'Scuse me, just a lrker but ... y not lighten up, were there no bombs
before London last week?  Aren't they a fact of life?  Don't we deal
with life's trauma by using it for humour? Laughing at events and
ourselves and allowing folk to say whatever they want.  Tolerance and
all that.

jm2c

You know what I hate about this time of year?  IT makes
all those cold continental lagers so damn good I don't
make it to pubs with real beer...

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:26:52 +0100 (BST),
johndunedin@drink.demon.co.uk (John Hein) wrote:


>On Monday, in article 
>>>I've actually refused to serve a very well known 'bottler' at the Great
>>>Welsh BF in Cardiff one year, and this guy was literally pleading with
>>>me to sell it to him, despite the fact that it had been CONDEMNED and
>>>was labelled up as such ! He finally admitted that he didn't actually
>>>care what it tasted like, he just HAD to have this 'tick' ! I still
>>>refused to serve him.
>
>
>If it would have made the man happy, why did you refuse?


Because selling COMDEMNED beer would mean the festival and the seller
were breaking public health and safety laws. Given the penalties it's
really not worthwhile taking the risk.

Summerisle